english champagne

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Solitude

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1,902 posts

176 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Lawks -a-lawdy...had a glass about two years ago and it was lush.
Very light, and smooth as a babys bum.
Remembered it about a week ago and wanna know where to get some in ??

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

182 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Was it Nyetimber ? It was always the one historically which kicked the frogs bums into touch. Other newer kids will have increased their game in recent years.

I see their website has a list of stockists by region.

VTECMatt

1,176 posts

239 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Nyetimber particulary the Blanc de Blanc is excellent but expensive, try the Balfour Brut Rose or some of the Chapel Down range, we stock the CH Vintage Reserve which sells really well. I have been pushing Biddenhams products whilst not in the same leaugue as Nyetimber or Chapel Down the products are improving year on year.

It is such a shame that English Wines don't get the tax breaks our European friends receivefrown


Edited by VTECMatt on Tuesday 6th July 20:46

Solitude

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1,902 posts

176 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Ruddy norah....Found a bottle of English sparkling Rose (Brut) "created by" Chapel Down winery in the frigidaire. Forgot id got it ! (think i bought it in M&S)
Hurrah !!
Come on the Dutch

ClassicMercs

1,703 posts

182 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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What - English Brut to watch the dutch with.

Get a drink of dutch origin. You need a snowball !

sherman

13,376 posts

216 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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teacher There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.

Edited by sherman on Tuesday 6th July 22:21

cslwannabe

1,411 posts

170 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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Waitrose sell Nyetimber - just missed their 25% off promotion but they do it fairly often. Got a couple of bottles based on the good reviews it gets but not tried any yet. Have tried Camel Valley from Cornwall which is v.good.

Mobile Chicane

20,846 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th July 2010
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My favourite is Denbies 'Whitedown'. £15.99 from Waitrose, or a few quid less from the vineyard shop.

It's nothing like 'champagne', but it knocks spots off any champagne at that price point.

Bullett

10,890 posts

185 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Love Nytimber, can also recommend Camel Valley Sparkling and have a couple of bottles of Stanlake Park to try as well. I did taste it so it must have been nice enough to have purchased a bottle.

Pothole

34,367 posts

283 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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sherman said:
teacher There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.

Edited by sherman on Tuesday 6th July 22:21
BMTI

Jesus TF Christ

5,740 posts

232 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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sherman said:
teacher There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.

Edited by sherman on Tuesday 6th July 22:21
You sound cool, you're definitely invited to my party.

I like the Chapel Down stuff they sell in Waitrose, their Bacchus was excellent although the 2009 crop isn't anyway near as nice as the previous season. Had one of the sparkling wines they do and it was very good, but I was a wee bit tipsy so can't pass sensible judgement.

sherman

13,376 posts

216 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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Jesus TF Christ said:
sherman said:
teacher There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.
You sound cool, you're definitely invited to my party.
Do you just have Sparkling wine for this party or do are you splashing out and buying actual Champagne?

Edited by sherman on Wednesday 7th July 23:06

Mobile Chicane

20,846 posts

213 months

Wednesday 7th July 2010
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An observation about English sparkling wines is that they vary considerably from one year to another, since producers either don't have the skill or the resources to blend to a 'house style'.

2002(?) Nyetimber I think beat a number of sparkling wines and champagnes in a blind tasting. I couldn't find the 2002 so tried the 2003 instead. It was horrible. So sharp it feels as though it's dissolving your teeth.

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Saturday 10th July 2010
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I have done a vertical tasting of Denbies Greenfields Cuvee. And there is certainly a "style". OK, it may not have the complexity of the better champagnes, so some people sneer at the populist nature. But that doesn't mean it isn't very good.

Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.

That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride smile

If you are in Waitrose, do try the
Chapel Down Bacchus. Lovely light summer wine, and no need to make excuses about it being English.

muppetdave

2,118 posts

226 months

Saturday 10th July 2010
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sherman said:
teacher There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.
Don't dispute this, but someone mentioned to me the other day that the Yanks own the right to name their sparklers Champagne too in a faux pas by the French years ago - can anyone cooberate this?

Mobile Chicane

20,846 posts

213 months

Saturday 10th July 2010
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Noger said:
I have done a vertical tasting of Denbies Greenfields Cuvee. And there is certainly a "style". OK, it may not have the complexity of the better champagnes, so some people sneer at the populist nature. But that doesn't mean it isn't very good.

Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.

That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride smile
Where are you? I'm on Box Hill a mile-and-a-half from the vineyard and all for supporting a local business rather than throw money at the French, however I'm a tightwad and buy the cheaper Whitedowns.

I was thinking earlier today given how hot it is (and provided the good weather holds during the ripening season) that Denbies 2010 production across all styles ought to be good.

Juniper Hill blew me away the first time I tried it (2007 vintage). Later years were disappointing by comparison, but I have high hopes for the 2010.

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Monday 12th July 2010
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muppetdave said:
sherman said:
teacher There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.
Don't dispute this, but someone mentioned to me the other day that the Yanks own the right to name their sparklers Champagne too in a faux pas by the French years ago - can anyone cooberate this?
I don't think it was a faux-pas. The Treaty of Versailles, post WWI, had some stuff about names of products, ostensibly to protect Allied trade. Nothing specific about champagne, but it was clearly the obvious target.

Yanks signed, but didn't ratify. So could still call sparkling wine champagne. Although fairly recently they stopped any new producers calling it that.

Quite whether they would have felt obligated to force makers into not producing "champagne" is a different matter. After all, we signed and ratified the treaty on behalf of Australia, and they still produce Burgundy IIRC.

Noger

7,117 posts

250 months

Monday 12th July 2010
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Mobile Chicane said:
Noger said:
I have done a vertical tasting of Denbies Greenfields Cuvee. And there is certainly a "style". OK, it may not have the complexity of the better champagnes, so some people sneer at the populist nature. But that doesn't mean it isn't very good.

Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.

That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride smile
Where are you? I'm on Box Hill a mile-and-a-half from the vineyard and all for supporting a local business rather than throw money at the French, however I'm a tightwad and buy the cheaper Whitedowns.

I was thinking earlier today given how hot it is (and provided the good weather holds during the ripening season) that Denbies 2010 production across all styles ought to be good.

Juniper Hill blew me away the first time I tried it (2007 vintage). Later years were disappointing by comparison, but I have high hopes for the 2010.
Just down the slope from Boxhill near Brockham.

Yes, we were talking yesterday about the same thing, how good will this weather be for Denbies. Hopefully they have a great year.