english champagne
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Nyetimber particulary the Blanc de Blanc is excellent but expensive, try the Balfour Brut Rose or some of the Chapel Down range, we stock the CH Vintage Reserve which sells really well. I have been pushing Biddenhams products whilst not in the same leaugue as Nyetimber or Chapel Down the products are improving year on year.
It is such a shame that English Wines don't get the tax breaks our European friends receive
It is such a shame that English Wines don't get the tax breaks our European friends receive
Edited by VTECMatt on Tuesday 6th July 20:46
sherman said:
There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.
You sound cool, you're definitely invited to my party.Edited by sherman on Tuesday 6th July 22:21
I like the Chapel Down stuff they sell in Waitrose, their Bacchus was excellent although the 2009 crop isn't anyway near as nice as the previous season. Had one of the sparkling wines they do and it was very good, but I was a wee bit tipsy so can't pass sensible judgement.
Jesus TF Christ said:
sherman said:
There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.
You sound cool, you're definitely invited to my party.Edited by sherman on Wednesday 7th July 23:06
An observation about English sparkling wines is that they vary considerably from one year to another, since producers either don't have the skill or the resources to blend to a 'house style'.
2002(?) Nyetimber I think beat a number of sparkling wines and champagnes in a blind tasting. I couldn't find the 2002 so tried the 2003 instead. It was horrible. So sharp it feels as though it's dissolving your teeth.
2002(?) Nyetimber I think beat a number of sparkling wines and champagnes in a blind tasting. I couldn't find the 2002 so tried the 2003 instead. It was horrible. So sharp it feels as though it's dissolving your teeth.
I have done a vertical tasting of Denbies Greenfields Cuvee. And there is certainly a "style". OK, it may not have the complexity of the better champagnes, so some people sneer at the populist nature. But that doesn't mean it isn't very good.
Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.
That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride
If you are in Waitrose, do try the
Chapel Down Bacchus. Lovely light summer wine, and no need to make excuses about it being English.
Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.
That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride
If you are in Waitrose, do try the
Chapel Down Bacchus. Lovely light summer wine, and no need to make excuses about it being English.
sherman said:
There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.
Don't dispute this, but someone mentioned to me the other day that the Yanks own the right to name their sparklers Champagne too in a faux pas by the French years ago - can anyone cooberate this?Noger said:
I have done a vertical tasting of Denbies Greenfields Cuvee. And there is certainly a "style". OK, it may not have the complexity of the better champagnes, so some people sneer at the populist nature. But that doesn't mean it isn't very good.
Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.
That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride
Where are you? I'm on Box Hill a mile-and-a-half from the vineyard and all for supporting a local business rather than throw money at the French, however I'm a tightwad and buy the cheaper Whitedowns. Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.
That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride
I was thinking earlier today given how hot it is (and provided the good weather holds during the ripening season) that Denbies 2010 production across all styles ought to be good.
Juniper Hill blew me away the first time I tried it (2007 vintage). Later years were disappointing by comparison, but I have high hopes for the 2010.
muppetdave said:
sherman said:
There is no such thing as English Champagne it is an English Sparkling wine.
Don't dispute this, but someone mentioned to me the other day that the Yanks own the right to name their sparklers Champagne too in a faux pas by the French years ago - can anyone cooberate this?Yanks signed, but didn't ratify. So could still call sparkling wine champagne. Although fairly recently they stopped any new producers calling it that.
Quite whether they would have felt obligated to force makers into not producing "champagne" is a different matter. After all, we signed and ratified the treaty on behalf of Australia, and they still produce Burgundy IIRC.
Mobile Chicane said:
Noger said:
I have done a vertical tasting of Denbies Greenfields Cuvee. And there is certainly a "style". OK, it may not have the complexity of the better champagnes, so some people sneer at the populist nature. But that doesn't mean it isn't very good.
Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.
That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride
Where are you? I'm on Box Hill a mile-and-a-half from the vineyard and all for supporting a local business rather than throw money at the French, however I'm a tightwad and buy the cheaper Whitedowns. Have never experienced variability in Nietimber, or Chapel Down.
That said I could seen the vines at
denbies from here, if it were light, so maybe it is local pride
I was thinking earlier today given how hot it is (and provided the good weather holds during the ripening season) that Denbies 2010 production across all styles ought to be good.
Juniper Hill blew me away the first time I tried it (2007 vintage). Later years were disappointing by comparison, but I have high hopes for the 2010.
Yes, we were talking yesterday about the same thing, how good will this weather be for Denbies. Hopefully they have a great year.
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