Eco friendly drinks bottles.

Eco friendly drinks bottles.

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simple101

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1,212 posts

182 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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Do they exist? Other than re using old bottles, or using recycled plastic, are there any other good eco friendly bottles out there?

My customer base would be more inclined to buy from me knowing that the planet is no worse off.


ingelow

150 posts

202 months

Friday 9th July 2010
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reusable + filter?

http://www.waterbobble.com/

should win you some brownie points smile

skwdenyer

16,614 posts

241 months

Saturday 10th July 2010
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ingelow said:
reusable + filter?

http://www.waterbobble.com/

should win you some brownie points smile
Interesting product, firmly in the "why didn't I think of that" category. Not sure I like the implementation, or the use-cases, but other than that. However, I don't see that as a solution to (what I take to be) the OP's question!

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Saturday 10th July 2010
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Bamboo? Naturally sealed sections, grows in weeks.

skwdenyer

16,614 posts

241 months

Saturday 10th July 2010
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simple101 said:
Do they exist? Other than re using old bottles, or using recycled plastic, are there any other good eco friendly bottles out there?

My customer base would be more inclined to buy from me knowing that the planet is no worse off.
Don't supply in bottles at all? Ignoring the make-up of the bottles themselves, they remain a very inefficient solution to the problem of moving liquids around, and hard to justify - in any form - as an "eco friendly" option, IMHO.

Can you give us a clue as to what you're trying to package?

Scraggles

7,619 posts

225 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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mailed the waterbobble peeps, 300 uses for the filter, not sold anywhere in the uk

Carpie

1,118 posts

196 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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Glass bottles.

I don't understand why everything isn't packaged in them.

mmm-five

11,272 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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Scraggles said:
mailed the waterbobble peeps, 300 uses for the filter, not sold anywhere in the uk
Harvey Nichols are supposed to be selling them from 30th July.

http://www.harveynichols.com/output/page972.asp

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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There has been a scare about re-using plastic water bottles, something to do with chemicals in the plastic leeching into the water so check round for any scares similar to that before you go too far down any line as the sort of person who is impressed by Eco friendliness may be the sort who buys into the latest Celeb lifestyle magazine health scare.

skwdenyer

16,614 posts

241 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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mmm-five said:
Scraggles said:
mailed the waterbobble peeps, 300 uses for the filter, not sold anywhere in the uk
Harvey Nichols are supposed to be selling them from 30th July.

http://www.harveynichols.com/output/page972.asp
Unfortunately, that would destroy a large part of their "eco-friendly" credentials, i.e. that they are produced in the USA for US consumption, so no international shipping smile

Also, you can't put the bottle in the dishwasher, you can't put the filter in the dishwasher, you can't get the bottles branded, you can't use the bobble with anything other than basic water.

I'm a little lost as to where the advantage really is!

Size Nine Elm

5,167 posts

285 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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Engineer1 said:
There has been a scare about re-using plastic water bottles, something to do with chemicals in the plastic leeching into the water so check round for any scares similar to that before you go too far down any line as the sort of person who is impressed by Eco friendliness may be the sort who buys into the latest Celeb lifestyle magazine health scare.
Generally an urban myth - http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/plasticbottle...

Scraggles

7,619 posts

225 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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idea is that you fill up with tap water and not buy umpteen bottles that are used once and thrown away

only use bottled water in the car for when on site as wear a fleece in all weathers, not fun atm, but getting MMMF on bare sweaty arms is not fun, akin to itching powder....

maybe if I bought a few they would post it by ship, but suspect air mail is the most likely route

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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Carpie said:
Glass bottles.

I don't understand why everything isn't packaged in them.
Could this be because it's harder to pasteurise in glass bottles?

skwdenyer

16,614 posts

241 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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Scraggles said:
idea is that you fill up with tap water and not buy umpteen bottles that are used once and thrown away

only use bottled water in the car for when on site as wear a fleece in all weathers, not fun atm, but getting MMMF on bare sweaty arms is not fun, akin to itching powder....

maybe if I bought a few they would post it by ship, but suspect air mail is the most likely route
I understand what they're for. What I don't understand is why not buy a Brita filter (or an under-sink filter cartridge system) and just use any old bottle you have - a metal "hiking bottle" for instance, which can be washed and cleaned an essentially unlimited number of times and can be easily recycled?

I understand the market and the appeal. I just don't see how, if the OP is trying to present an "eco-friendly" image, these will stand more than the barest scrutiny.

OP: what are you trying to bottle? Have you considered cardboard cartons, which pack well, are made from recycled materials, and can easily be recycled?

Mojooo

12,768 posts

181 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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errm is it just me that re-uses a plain old volvic bottle over and over?

I have never sued one 300 times btu i normally get a good 5 uses out of them before i inevitably lose them

yes the water (tap) water doesnt taste as good as when you buy it bottled but that usually down to it being warmer by the tiem i drink the re-used stuff down at the gym etc

Scraggles

7,619 posts

225 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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tend to use the aluminium sigg bottles for when on the tube / train, can fill it with ice tubes - the ones that fit down the spout and fill it with squash / water mix

Kudos

2,672 posts

175 months

Sunday 11th July 2010
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simple101 said:
Do they exist? Other than re using old bottles, or using recycled plastic, are there any other good eco friendly bottles out there?

My customer base would be more inclined to buy from me knowing that the planet is no worse off.
I supply eco friendly plastic food trays to hospitals - big numbers of trays used on a daily basis. Happy to look into it for you if you want? PM me if you want more details/commercial info

simple101

Original Poster:

1,212 posts

182 months

Monday 12th July 2010
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I need to bottle non fizzy drinks such as water, orange juice and the like.

I have though about cartons and pouches but i thought i would start with bottles as it seemd the most common option.

Cartons can be packaged more efficiently though and could be made using recycled cardboard. Would need to look into the life span and how they react to freezing/refridgeration.

Turns out very few people have perfected 100% recycled containers. Ribena and innocent being the big ones. Naturally they are being tight lipped but innocent did pass me on to wrap.org... seem a very helpful bunch if anyone else is interested.

StevieBee

12,961 posts

256 months

Monday 12th July 2010
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Carpie said:
Glass bottles.

I don't understand why everything isn't packaged in them.
Weight is one thing. Cost and the fact that of all the material that is recyclable, the benefits of recycling glass (cost, emissions, raw material preservation, etc.) are marginal.

They are reusable (remember Corona Fizzy Drinks?) but manufacturing has spread far and wide so there are not the supply chains and logistics there once were to make collection and reuse a viability.