Death penalty recipients?
Discussion
obob said:
People who kick a dog. 
Yep, definitely. 
On a more serious note, Mira [sp] Hindley and Brady.
The guy that murdured he Soham girls.
I do believe it could be re-introduced but errors in convictions would need to be seriously addressed. I think it could be used where there is 100% gaurentee that the convicted person is guilty of Murder.
Edited by AshVX220 on Thursday 5th August 16:08
stitched said:
If the death penalty were re-introduced who do you think should be 'customers'?
Dunno, but based on Home Office statistics, if it ever did get brought back, you can bet the murder rate would fall by half after the first couple of hangings had taken place and it dawned on the criminal scum that broader society had had enough of their behaviour and was prepared to sanction the ultimate personal punishmentJustayellowbadge said:
Anyone seen the Bamber news today?
Yep. Chances are good that there is evidence that backs his account that was not admitted at the time of his trial and appeals. Evidence that casts reasonable doubt on his conviction.He's been in 25 years. A lifetime.
If they'd killed him and he's innocent who's guilty of his murder? Because someone should be.
Poor bugger will be institutionalised beyond recovery. He'll need State help for the rest of his days.
Miscarriages of justice would still appear to be rare but they do happen.
AshVX220 said:
obob said:
People who kick a dog.
Yep, definitely. On a more serious note, Mira [sp] Hindley and Brady.
The guy that murdured he Soham girls.
I do believe it could be re-introduced but errors in convictions would need to be seriously addressed. I think it could be used where there is 100% gaurentee that the convicted person is guilty of Murder.
Edited by AshVX220 on Thursday 5th August 16:08
Don said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Anyone seen the Bamber news today?
Yep. Chances are good that there is evidence that backs his account that was not admitted at the time of his trial and appeals. Evidence that casts reasonable doubt on his conviction.He's been in 25 years. A lifetime.
If they'd killed him and he's innocent who's guilty of his murder? Because someone should be.
Poor bugger will be institutionalised beyond recovery. He'll need State help for the rest of his days.
Miscarriages of justice would still appear to be rare but they do happen.
And the arugment that says one innocent life lost cos of an incorrect death sentence (assuming that were ever to happen given todays standards of evidence) ignores the 300 - 400 EXTRA innocent people who are murdered each year as a result of the rise in the murder rate per million head of population following the abolition of the death penalty
Silent1 said:
no-one, the risk of killing an innocent person is too high, you can release a wrongly convicted person, you can't bring them back to life.
I agree. Except in cases like this:http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=14&...
Don said:
Justayellowbadge said:
Anyone seen the Bamber news today?
Yep. Chances are good that there is evidence that backs his account that was not admitted at the time of his trial and appeals. Evidence that casts reasonable doubt on his conviction.He's been in 25 years. A lifetime.
If they'd killed him and he's innocent who's guilty of his murder? Because someone should be.
Poor bugger will be institutionalised beyond recovery. He'll need State help for the rest of his days.
Miscarriages of justice would still appear to be rare but they do happen.
But if Captial punishment was in effect then the legal situation IMO would be very different, by 'fitting' an innocent person up and getting them executed - those responsible are themselves guilty of murder.
I think the knowledge that failing to reveal evidence could result in charges of murder would concentrate the mind, and innocent people would be less likely to be convicted.
Silent1 said:
no-one, the risk of killing an innocent person is too high, you can release a wrongly convicted person, you can't bring them back to life.
Damn you're right I will throw away my car keys straight away, I can't possibly drive my car knowing that the chances of innocents dying in their hundreds every year as a direct result of the freedom to drive, the chances of innocents dying is too high.I'm also going to stop them building any tall buildings too, death's in major construction projects are inevitable, life is too precious, it's beyond price...
And growing food. Agriculture is one of the most dangerous industries ,. stop Farmers now!
andymadmak said:
And the arugment that says one innocent life lost cos of an incorrect death sentence (assuming that were ever to happen given todays standards of evidence) ignores the 300 - 400 EXTRA innocent people who are murdered each year as a result of the rise in the murder rate per million head of population following the abolition of the death penalty
That is a massive oversimplification - Correlation does not equal causation.There have been enormous societal changes in the same period which could just as easily explain the difference.
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