Nick Clegg and Liberals in Government

Nick Clegg and Liberals in Government

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dwspirit

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629 posts

169 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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I am not a Liberal Democrat member or supporter; but Nick Clegg and other Liberal ministers have been pretty impressive with David Cameron on holiday. Who remembers the poor performance of John Prescott and Harriet Harman under the last administration. The Liberals come over as pretty normal straight talking people rather than the Blair/Brown spin we are used to.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

209 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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dwspirit said:
I am not a Liberal Democrat member or supporter; but Nick Clegg and other Liberal ministers have been pretty impressive with David Cameron on holiday. Who remembers the poor performance of John Prescott and Harriet Harman under the last administration. The Liberals come over as pretty normal straight talking people rather than the Blair/Brown spin we are used to.
Impressed with what exactly? If anything he has embarrassed Cameron with his Ilegal war slip and not wanting Trident.Loseing David Laws weeks into the job due to Sleaze was also self-inflicted.

Take your rose tinted glasses off. The Tories would be better without these idiots.

Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Friday 20th August 10:45

Riff Raff

5,165 posts

197 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Take your rose tinted glasses off. The Tories would be better without these idiots.
You have forgotten to take your reality pill this morning. The tories wouldn't be in government without these 'idiots' because they didn't win an absolute majority in the last election.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

209 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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Riff Raff said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Take your rose tinted glasses off. The Tories would be better without these idiots.
You have forgotten to take your reality pill this morning. The tories wouldn't be in government without these 'idiots' because they didn't win an absolute majority in the last election.
Oh, i forgot about thatrolleyes We all know that the Tories did not get the majority but if you seriously think that Tory voters are happy with Clegg and co. then i think you are mistaken. They have brought nothing to the table except sleaze/a high profile resignation and going against the Tories standing with regards to Trident and the legality of the Iraq war.

hifihigh

585 posts

203 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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On the Iraq war, I would have lost some respect for Clegg if he backpedaled on his view that the war was questionable/not legal just to fall in with the governments line. Atleast he stuck to his principles on that one.

Riff Raff

5,165 posts

197 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Riff Raff said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Take your rose tinted glasses off. The Tories would be better without these idiots.
You have forgotten to take your reality pill this morning. The tories wouldn't be in government without these 'idiots' because they didn't win an absolute majority in the last election.
Oh, i forgot about thatrolleyes We all know that the Tories did not get the majority but if you seriously think that Tory voters are happy with Clegg and co. then i think you are mistaken. They have brought nothing to the table except sleaze/a high profile resignation and going against the Tories standing with regards to Trident and the legality of the Iraq war.
I'm not a Labour type chappie, nor am I a Liberal. I'm pretty happy with the way things are panning out. I'm not a supporter of a Trident replacement, and I think the Iraq war was illegal too. I'm far happier with a centre/centre right government than the one we might have had, had CMD won an absolute majority, when he would have had to pander to the loony right wing of the Conservative party. Lots of people I know feel the same way. So there are Tories who are happy with the current state of affairs. Sorry if that upsets you. As for the sleaze jibe, think about who has had to resign the Conservative whip in the Lords during the past couple of weeks and why. Sleaze is endemic in politics, it pretty much always has been.

colonel c

7,892 posts

241 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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The Guardian said:
Nick Clegg today risked the anger of the Liberal Democrat grassroots by suggesting he would not abandon the coalition with the Tories even if the key plans for electoral reform were blocked.
I'm not sure he will survive let alone the coalition if the Tory MPs block this one.


Edited by colonel c on Friday 20th August 14:48

fadeaway

1,463 posts

228 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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Riff Raff said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Riff Raff said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Take your rose tinted glasses off. The Tories would be better without these idiots.
You have forgotten to take your reality pill this morning. The tories wouldn't be in government without these 'idiots' because they didn't win an absolute majority in the last election.
Oh, i forgot about thatrolleyes We all know that the Tories did not get the majority but if you seriously think that Tory voters are happy with Clegg and co. then i think you are mistaken. They have brought nothing to the table except sleaze/a high profile resignation and going against the Tories standing with regards to Trident and the legality of the Iraq war.
I'm not a Labour type chappie, nor am I a Liberal. I'm pretty happy with the way things are panning out. I'm not a supporter of a Trident replacement, and I think the Iraq war was illegal too. I'm far happier with a centre/centre right government than the one we might have had, had CMD won an absolute majority, when he would have had to pander to the loony right wing of the Conservative party. Lots of people I know feel the same way. So there are Tories who are happy with the current state of affairs. Sorry if that upsets you. As for the sleaze jibe, think about who has had to resign the Conservative whip in the Lords during the past couple of weeks and why. Sleaze is endemic in politics, it pretty much always has been.
+1 (although I support replacing Trident).

The Conservative/Liberal government is generally spot on for me. I'm not usually a fan of coalistion governments, but this one is working very nicely so far, and is allowing both parties to ignore/forget the more stupid policies that their more extreme members and extreme supports insist on having in the manifestos.

V88Dicky

7,308 posts

185 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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fadeaway said:
Riff Raff said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Riff Raff said:
Wanta996Gotta said:
Take your rose tinted glasses off. The Tories would be better without these idiots.
You have forgotten to take your reality pill this morning. The tories wouldn't be in government without these 'idiots' because they didn't win an absolute majority in the last election.
Oh, i forgot about thatrolleyes We all know that the Tories did not get the majority but if you seriously think that Tory voters are happy with Clegg and co. then i think you are mistaken. They have brought nothing to the table except sleaze/a high profile resignation and going against the Tories standing with regards to Trident and the legality of the Iraq war.
I'm not a Labour type chappie, nor am I a Liberal. I'm pretty happy with the way things are panning out. I'm not a supporter of a Trident replacement, and I think the Iraq war was illegal too. I'm far happier with a centre/centre right government than the one we might have had, had CMD won an absolute majority, when he would have had to pander to the loony right wing of the Conservative party. Lots of people I know feel the same way. So there are Tories who are happy with the current state of affairs. Sorry if that upsets you. As for the sleaze jibe, think about who has had to resign the Conservative whip in the Lords during the past couple of weeks and why. Sleaze is endemic in politics, it pretty much always has been.
+1 (although I support replacing Trident).

The Conservative/Liberal government is generally spot on for me. I'm not usually a fan of coalistion governments, but this one is working very nicely so far, and is allowing both parties to ignore/forget the more stupid policies that their more extreme members and extreme supports insist on having in the manifestos.
I agree also, although I was shocked when the loony Chris Huhne was appointed as Secretary for Energy and Man-made up Global Warming. Couldn't have been more ecomental than that git.

Fittster

20,120 posts

215 months

Friday 20th August 2010
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It's interesting just how much support has slipped away from the Libs since they went into the coalition.

"The Liberal Democrats have slumped to their lowest poll rating in eighteen months as traditional supporters desert the party in the wake of the Budget.

Nick Clegg is clearly suffering after entering into a coalition with the Conservatives while the other two main parties are flourishing, according to the ICM poll for The Sunday Telegraph.
The Lib Dems have plummeted to 16%, down five points, while the Conservatives are on 41%, up two, and Labour are up four points on 35%."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politic...