Why does a kettle make noise?

Why does a kettle make noise?

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erdnase

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Making a cup of coffee there, I was listening to the kettle and got wondering. Obviously when it's boiling, and approaching boiling, the noise comes from steam being forced through the spout, as well as bubbles forming in the water.

However... even before the water is lukewarm, there's a hissing sound like white noise. This is quite loud, considering there are no moving parts in my electric kettle. What gives? Do I need a new kettle? smile

Silverbullet767

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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erdnase

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lol, implied facepalm... very good smile

nammynake

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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The element at the bottom reaches temperature very quickly, hence water in the vicinity of it will boil very quickly, forming small bubbles and making noise. If you keep the lid open at the start you should be able to see this. The kettle switches off once the entire volume of water reaches boiling point.

Or something...

erdnase

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nammynake said:
The element at the bottom reaches temperature very quickly, hence water in the vicinity of it will boil very quickly
Sounds good to me. End of thread.. lock it up! smile

erdnase

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Ayahuasca

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Most modern electric kettles are fitted with an alarm that emits a sound in the presence of urine - this could be what you are hearing.


it is the Rule that any thread about kettles has to refer to peeing in them


Edited by Ayahuasca on Wednesday 29th September 19:59

Shaw Tarse

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Ayahuasca said:
Most modern electric kettles are fitted with an alarm that emits a sound in the presence of urine - this could be what you are hearing.
I know many Daily Mail links make PHers piss boil, but who would wee in a kettle? scratchchin

remedy

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NeMiSiS said:
No st, I almost did this earlier when pre-heating some water to cook rice.

NoNeed

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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erdnase said:
Making a cup of coffee there, I was listening to the kettle and got wondering. Obviously when it's boiling, and approaching boiling, the noise comes from steam being forced through the spout, as well as bubbles forming in the water.

However... even before the water is lukewarm, there's a hissing sound like white noise. This is quite loud, considering there are no moving parts in my electric kettle. What gives? Do I need a new kettle? smile
More importantly, where do the bubbles come from?

remedy

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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I know this, I know this... I learned it on PH last time...

The oxygen molecules separate from the hydrogen as the temperature increases.











Who says PH is full of crap?

Rocksteadyeddie

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Shaw Tarse said:
Ayahuasca said:
Most modern electric kettles are fitted with an alarm that emits a sound in the presence of urine - this could be what you are hearing.
I know many Daily Mail links make PHers piss boil, but who would wee in a kettle? scratchchin
And, more importantly what would possess you to do so? scratchchin

ewenm

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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remedy said:
I know this, I know this... I learned it on PH last time...

The oxygen molecules separate from the hydrogen as the temperature increases.











Who says PH is full of crap?
rofl

Ayahuasca

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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NoNeed said:
erdnase said:
Making a cup of coffee there, I was listening to the kettle and got wondering. Obviously when it's boiling, and approaching boiling, the noise comes from steam being forced through the spout, as well as bubbles forming in the water.

However... even before the water is lukewarm, there's a hissing sound like white noise. This is quite loud, considering there are no moving parts in my electric kettle. What gives? Do I need a new kettle? smile
More importantly, where do the bubbles come from?
That's easy - from the last PH discussion on the subject I now know that it is the oxygen and hydrogen separating and turning into gas.




damn - too late.

Edited by Ayahuasca on Wednesday 29th September 20:18

erdnase

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remedy said:
The oxygen molecules separate from the hydrogen as the temperature increases.
I thought it was air dissolved in the water? So those bubbles are pure oxygen and hydrogen then?

remedy

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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erdnase said:
remedy said:
The oxygen molecules separate from the hydrogen as the temperature increases.
I thought it was air dissolved in the water? So those bubbles are pure oxygen and hydrogen then?
Yep, whatever you do, don't light a match while boiling a kettle!

NoNeed

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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remedy said:
I know this, I know this... I learned it on PH last time...

The oxygen molecules separate from the hydrogen as the temperature increases.











Who says PH is full of crap?
Thanksthumbup

Pints

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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I'm not sure the implied facepalm was facepalm enough for all the crap I'm hearing in this thread.

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Zad

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Absolute rubbish, no electrolysis happens at all. The bubbles are steam (water vapour). Incidentally, the "steam" you see coming out of the spout is condensed vapour, steam itself is relatively invisible. I can see from your faces that this is news to you all!

The noise is caused because small bubbles of vapour are generated next to the hotplate/element. They then detach and attempt to rise. But, because the rest of the water is <100C the steam condenses and the bubble rapidly implodes, taking a tiny fraction of the gaseous volume. This sends a negative shock wave through the water, and it eventually hits the wall of the kettle causing a n audible 'pop'. Older lower power (and quieter) kettles generated more convection currents which moved the heating water out of the way before vapour could be generated.

As the water heats up, more and more vapour bubbles make it to the surface and escape. This is much more gradual and doesn't generate and sharp shock waves. Hence, a boiling kettle is quieter than a 'hissing' one that is just heating up.

ETA: Why do I know this crap....


Edited by Zad on Wednesday 29th September 20:33

remedy

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Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Anyone seen the whoosh parrot lately? I've got an audition for him...