Salary problems

[Alex97]

I started a new job a few weeks ago with a fairly large national company (Insurance/Legal if it matters) and I'm a bit annoyed with the way they pay their employees (well, specifically with the way they are paying me).

I started on the 11th of this month and the 'cut off' point for wages to be paid for that month is the 18th, so anything earned after the 18th isn't paid until the following month. This means I only got paid for a weeks work yesterday, despite having worked for 3 weeks.

I'm really not happy with constantly being owed money, is this normal practice? Every other place I've worked at I've just been paid until the end of the month. I'm salaried if that makes any difference. It wouldn't matter so much but the train fare is hideously expensive.....

[Eric Mc]

Constantly?

Is this not just an initial anomaly which will sort itself out once you are into your second month of working there?

It should not be a big problem unless your wages fluctuate widely from month to month.

[CatherineJ]

It's nothing out of the ordinary in my opinion. I think most of us work in arrears in some form or other. As Eric has said it should sort itself out.

When I joined my current company I worked 4 weeks before getting paid for just 3.

Edited by CatherineJ on Saturday 30th October 17:20

[JensenA]

Perfectly normal - I can't see what the problem is. If you had started on the 19th, you would have had to work for 4 weeks until you got paid. Don't you understand how salaries work??

[Alex97]

JensenA said:

Perfectly normal - I can't see what the problem is. If you had started on the 19th, you would have had to work for 4 weeks until you got paid. Don't you understand how salaries work??

If I'd started on the 18th, I'd have been waiting roughly 6 weeks before I get paid. Pay day is the last day of the month. Thanks for the rolleyes though

Eric Mc said:

Constantly?

Is this not just an initial anomaly which will sort itself out once you are into your second month of working there?

It should not be a big problem unless your wages fluctuate widely from month to month.

By sort itself out do you mean I'll get 6 weeks pay in my next pay packet? It seems to me they're paying from the 18th to the 18th every month but pay day isn't until the end of the month. It's just quite an early cut off date for wages. In my previous work I'd miss out on about 2 days wages whereas now it seems it's about 2 weeks.

[T_Pot]

you did well getting through the interview imho

[Engineer1]

Alex97 said:

By sort itself out do you mean I'll get 6 weeks pay in my next pay packet? It seems to me they're paying from the 18th to the 18th every month but pay day isn't until the end of the month. It's just quite an early cut off date for wages. In my previous work I'd miss out on about 2 days wages whereas now it seems it's about 2 weeks.

No it sounds like your wages are 2 weeks in advance 2 weeks in arrears.
It's true though with a large number of intelligent experienced workers on the job market you got an interview and the job.

[Alex97]

Engineer1 said:

Alex97 said:

By sort itself out do you mean I'll get 6 weeks pay in my next pay packet? It seems to me they're paying from the 18th to the 18th every month but pay day isn't until the end of the month. It's just quite an early cut off date for wages. In my previous work I'd miss out on about 2 days wages whereas now it seems it's about 2 weeks.

No it sounds like your wages are 2 weeks in advance 2 weeks in arrears.
It's true though with a large number of intelligent experienced workers on the job market you got an interview and the job.

Absolutely, it's a well paid job in an industry I've never worked in and I can't even work out how I get paid I guess I'll know next month.

[JensenA]

T_Pot said:

you did well getting through the interview imho

: exactly what I was thinking.

How the feck did you get the job when you can't even work out how salaries are paid? And you work for a company in the Legal/Insurance field! Gawd help us, were all doomed.

[Wheelrepairit]

Blimey, I pay my lads on the 29th of every month, for that month, so in effect being paid a couple of days in advance.

Ill even pay them middle of month if they off on holidays

And still the fkers moan.

[Alex97]

JensenA said:

T_Pot said:

you did well getting through the interview imho

: exactly what I was thinking.

How the feck did you get the job when you can't even work out how salaries are paid? And you work for a company in the Legal/Insurance field! Gawd help us, were all doomed.

Yeah like I said, I understand how they're paid. I'm used to being paid:

Wheelrepairit said:

Blimey, I pay my lads on the 29th of every month, for that month, so in effect being paid a couple of days in advance.

like that. Having a cut off point 2 weeks before pay day is foreign to me. Again, thanks though,

[Boshly]

Give the guy a break, sounds like he's just paid two weeks in arrears.

T'would be two in advance and two in arrears if he was paid for the month in the middle if the month.

I think the company are improving their cash flow by paying two weeks in arears constantly. Paid on the 30th for the first 18 days of that month and the last 12(ish) of the previous. A bit cheeky but I'm guessing it was spelt out in your start letter or contract?

[Fatman2]

That's a bit crap to be fair as, being salaried, you should receive an exact proportion of the month you've worked, irrespective of payroll dates. Just make sure this is logged so you get it all back when you leave.

To play devil's advocate though, when the leave year starts it may well even out if you're planning on taking a few weeks off early on. Most companies will let you take leave unrestricted so that you don't have to work it before you take it (if you know what I mean).

My bro in law's company will only let you take days off as you've accrued them so is a total pain.

[oyster]

Fatman2 said:

My bro in law's company will only let you take days off as you've accrued them so is a total pain.

So what happens if he wants/needs to take a week's holiday in early January?

[rash_decision]

Alex97 said:

I started a new job a few weeks ago with a fairly large national company (Insurance/Legal if it matters) and I'm a bit annoyed with the way they pay their employees (well, specifically with the way they are paying me).

I started on the 11th of this month and the 'cut off' point for wages to be paid for that month is the 18th, so anything earned after the 18th isn't paid until the following month. This means I only got paid for a weeks work yesterday, despite having worked for 3 weeks.

I'm really not happy with constantly being owed money, is this normal practice? Every other place I've worked at I've just been paid until the end of the month. I'm salaried if that makes any difference. It wouldn't matter so much but the train fare is hideously expensive.....

I have a cut off date each month of the 14th. "BUT", this is only a cut off date for overtime. Are you sure that's not the way it is? I still receive my Salary on the second last day of each month, but any overtime submitted after the 14th, doesn't reach me for roughly 6 weeks, but I know it's coming so no big issue.

And as for the owed money aspect? In any place I've worked, or had dealings with, they normally pay in arrears. You won't be working with them when you receive your last salary, a month after you finish!!

[Fatman2]

oyster said:

Fatman2 said:

My bro in law's company will only let you take days off as you've accrued them so is a total pain.

So what happens if he wants/needs to take a week's holiday in early January?

He either doesn't or takes unpaid leave. Sucks but that's the Aussies for you!

[fridaypassion]

Its only 2 weeks in hand. I've heard of people being a month in hand. You will be paid for two weeks after you leave if that helps

[OneDs]

I've worked for a company that pays a full month in advanced, a full month in arrears (most common), an initial month & half in arrears(which seems like you, not the pru is it?) and never had any problems. There are good reasons and benefits in all systems. (Especially advanced payrolls in high turnover outfits for both the employer & employee)

In all of them any overtime and other such irregular pay has to be submitted and approved two weeks prior to pay date (cut-off). So in the first company you were paid for April on the 31st March, with commission & overtime relating to half of February and half of March.

It will all work itself out in the end, you just need to keep an eye on it(as always).

Edited by OneDs on Friday 5th November 10:50

[webbyst]

fridaypassion said:

Its only 2 weeks in hand. I've heard of people being a month in hand. You will be paid for two weeks after you leave if that helps

I get paid a month in hand , no big deal really

[rich1231]

Fatman2 said:

That's a bit crap to be fair as, being salaried, you should receive an exact proportion of the month you've worked, irrespective of payroll dates. Just make sure this is logged so you get it all back when you leave.

To play devil's advocate though, when the leave year starts it may well even out if you're planning on taking a few weeks off early on. Most companies will let you take leave unrestricted so that you don't have to work it before you take it (if you know what I mean).

My bro in law's company will only let you take days off as you've accrued them so is a total pain.

bks, it depends on what is in the contract. I has nothing to do with beiong salaried or not.