Being chased for a late payment

Being chased for a late payment

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Galileo1

Original Poster:

84 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Good Evening folks,
Picked up the wee man from nursery today and was presented with a letter from the nursery saying we had missed a months payment and the owner was looking for us to supply her with what we had paid etc. Everything looks hunky-dory our end, shes only just banked Julys cheque on 4/11/10! Then... we are 'owe' 10% late payment surcharge for 5 months of £91 as we are running a month late every month!
She trades as a sole trader i think (im going to write to ask clarification) & we dont get invoiced monthly. Would this 'charge' still stand?
Suggestions as to what can i write in response to the debt, im not 100% clued up on the legalities, but as its not of a commercial nature i dont know if she can charge.
Cheers

Simpo Two

85,833 posts

267 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Any money is of a 'commercial nature'.

IMHO it all depends on what contract, if any, you signed. If you agreed to pay late payment surcharges, then you probably have to pay them. If you didn't, then you can construct a polite way (bearing in mind you may still wish to use their services) to tell them to go swing smile

My wild hunch is that her husband has just been made reduandant and is wading through her books telling her to get tough...

Pabl0

280 posts

202 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Does this mean you are getting the surcharge because she did not bank your cheque in July and hence decided you have been paying a month in arrears since?

Edited by Pabl0 on Tuesday 16th November 21:15

D_G

1,834 posts

211 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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If that's the case tell her to fk off

Galileo1

Original Poster:

84 posts

183 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Pablo,
Yes this appears to be the case..
Im just looking for a 'smart a**e'/ carefully worded response to her and the scrap of paper we were presented with! Her administrative operations have been questioned before. We're going to take the wee man out soon anyway as we're moving (which the nursery doesnt know yet)

Edited by Galileo1 on Tuesday 16th November 21:33

JustinP1

13,330 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Galileo1 said:
Pablo,
Yes this appears to be the case..
Im just looking for a 'smart a**e'/ carefully worded response to her and the scrap of paper we were presented with! Her administrative operations have been questioned before. We're going to take the wee man out soon anyway as we're moving (which the nursery doesnt know yet)

Edited by Galileo1 on Tuesday 16th November 21:33
It doesnt need to be carefully worded as you don't owe her sh** apart from a stern word.

That'll waste less of your time than writing a letter.

donz29

366 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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The late payment of commercial debts act is a statutory instrument and as such does not need to be included in any terms of business for it to be applicable. If there are no terms stating the agreed credit period then 30 days applies as a default under the Act.

However is she's essentially sat on your cheque for 5 months before cashing it, then I suggest that the error lies entirely with her and not you! It does sound as if her accounting procedure is nowhere near robust enough.

A guide to the Act published by the DTI is available to download here http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http:/...

HTH


Pabl0

280 posts

202 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Fundamentally her failure to administer her accounts and cheque paying into the bank is not your problem - she made the mistake by not paying the cheque in at the correct time.

Suggest she improves her administration and ask if she would like to pay you a consultancy fee for finding her error.

Galileo1

Original Poster:

84 posts

183 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Yeah, im going to drop it an email stating the fact that after me checking this isnt the first time a cheque hasnt been banked timeously (3 times now)i even said to my better half to say to the nursery about this and yes, may well include the 'consultancy fee' line.. have some of that fatso with your dodgy eye!

Kudos

2,672 posts

176 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Galileo1 said:
Yeah, im going to drop it an email stating the fact
Christ, not an email!

hidetheelephants

25,076 posts

195 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Kudos said:
Galileo1 said:
Yeah, im going to drop it an email stating the fact
Christ, not an email!
I bet he's a director. Times 5.

XG332

3,927 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th November 2010
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Just do nothing, keep telling her it is being sorted. Move and disapear into the night.

Road2Ruin

5,285 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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donz29 said:
The late payment of commercial debts act is a statutory instrument and as such does not need to be included in any terms of business for it to be applicable. If there are no terms stating the agreed credit period then 30 days applies as a default under the Act.

However is she's essentially sat on your cheque for 5 months before cashing it, then I suggest that the error lies entirely with her and not you! It does sound as if her accounting procedure is nowhere near robust enough.

A guide to the Act published by the DTI is available to download here http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http:/...

HTH
Doesn't that just apply to businesses and not individuals though? The nursery may be a business but the customer is an individual.

Galileo1

Original Poster:

84 posts

183 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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The Crack Fox said:
Galileo1 said:
have some of that fatso with your dodgy eye!
Gordon Brown runs your nursery !?

wink
One eye is looking at you, the other over your shoulder! Quite disconcerting, i never know if i should look in the 'good' one or the dodgy one. Think of the mad doctor in the Cannonball Run!
I went up and spoke to it... as opposed to emailing.. Took all payment details, chq numbers etc. got an apology, so looks like 1-0 and the wee man will no doubt be left to sit in a sh**y nappy all day from now on.
Thanks for help and comments

Marlboro Gold

8,596 posts

226 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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I thought all teachers had to be able to control their pupils wink

Cyberprog

2,204 posts

185 months

Thursday 18th November 2010
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Road2Ruin said:
donz29 said:
The late payment of commercial debts act is a statutory instrument and as such does not need to be included in any terms of business for it to be applicable. If there are no terms stating the agreed credit period then 30 days applies as a default under the Act.

However is she's essentially sat on your cheque for 5 months before cashing it, then I suggest that the error lies entirely with her and not you! It does sound as if her accounting procedure is nowhere near robust enough.

A guide to the Act published by the DTI is available to download here http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/+/http:/...

HTH
Doesn't that just apply to businesses and not individuals though? The nursery may be a business but the customer is an individual.
I was under the same impression myself that late payment charges and so on are only enforceable on b2b debts.