Christopher Hitchens 1-0 Tony Blair

Christopher Hitchens 1-0 Tony Blair

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Halb

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53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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"Staunch atheist wins over audience in debate with Catholic convert over whether religion is a force for good in the world"
Poor old Tonebiggrin
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/27/christ...

The real Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Good, anything that makes the hateful little toads life less then comfortable is fine by me

crmcatee

5,700 posts

228 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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So that will be the second time the Catholic church has taken a good beating. Stephen Fry and Hitchens did a good job with Widdecombe and a priest last year I think it was.

Look forward to seeing the video.

wolves_wanderer

12,398 posts

238 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Brilliant, a religion thread sleep

glazbagun

14,297 posts

198 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Love that there were still Iraq War protesters following him around. biggrin

Halb

Original Poster:

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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glazbagun said:
Love that there were still Iraq War protesters following him around. biggrin
Prolly for a good while yetbiggrin

Jasandjules

70,009 posts

230 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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glazbagun said:
Love that there were still Iraq War protesters following him around. biggrin
And long may it continue. If the scumbag had a conscience it would at least affect him. I just hope that one day he is executed for treason.


Globs

13,841 posts

232 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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Jasandjules said:
glazbagun said:
Love that there were still Iraq War protesters following him around. biggrin
And long may it continue. If the scumbag had a conscience it would at least affect him. I just hope that one day he is executed for treason.
Yup, those 'followers' give inspiration to millions waiting for the murderer to be brought to justice.

audidoody

8,597 posts

257 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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All Hitchens had to do to prove there is no God was point out to the audience that he is the one with terminal cancer, not Blair.

cymtriks

4,560 posts

246 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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They're wrong.

The motion his nothing at all to do with the existence of any diety or what their plan may be.

The motion specifically proposes that religion is a force for good.

As religions usually emphasise good deads and moral codes and the vast majority of religious people try to follow these guidelines it would seem that this is a reasonable statement.

Or, to put it another way, if everyone started aiming to follow the ten commandments, forgive others and be charitable would this be good or bad?

BeeRoad

684 posts

163 months

Saturday 27th November 2010
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cymtriks said:
They're wrong.

The motion his nothing at all to do with the existence of any diety or what their plan may be.

The motion specifically proposes that religion is a force for good.

As religions usually emphasise good deads and moral codes and the vast majority of religious people try to follow these guidelines it would seem that this is a reasonable statement.

Or, to put it another way, if everyone started aiming to follow the ten commandments, forgive others and be charitable would this be good or bad?
Including this one?

"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me"

Sounds like a nasty piece of work to me, this god.



branflakes

2,039 posts

239 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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cymtriks said:
As religions usually emphasise good deads and moral codes and the vast majority of religious people try to follow these guidelines it would seem that this is a reasonable statement.
Which explains why, in the USA where 75% of the population consider themselves to be christian and 15% consider themselves to be agnostic/athiest, the prison populations are 75% christian and 0.2% agnostic/athiest.

Or is obeying the law not considered morally correct amongst christians?

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

208 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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cymtriks said:
As religions usually emphasise good deads ?
Why is that?
Always in some afterlife.

enioldjoe

1,062 posts

212 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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BeeRoad said:
cymtriks said:
They're wrong.

The motion his nothing at all to do with the existence of any diety or what their plan may be.

The motion specifically proposes that religion is a force for good.

As religions usually emphasise good deads and moral codes and the vast majority of religious people try to follow these guidelines it would seem that this is a reasonable statement.

Or, to put it another way, if everyone started aiming to follow the ten commandments, forgive others and be charitable would this be good or bad?
Including this one?

Ex 20 vs 5 "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me"

Sounds like a nasty piece of work to me, this god.
vs 6 ".....but showing mercy to thousands to those who love Me and keep My Commandments."

Edited by enioldjoe on Sunday 28th November 10:26

glazbagun

14,297 posts

198 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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audidoody said:
All Hitchens had to do to prove there is no God was point out to the audience that he is the one with terminal cancer, not Blair.
biggrin

Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

191 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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audidoody said:
All Hitchens had to do to prove there is no God was point out to the audience that he is the one with terminal cancer, not Blair.
How does one prove a negative?

For example, I don't have an apple. How do I prove this?


audidoody

8,597 posts

257 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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Prof Prolapse said:
audidoody said:
All Hitchens had to do to prove there is no God was point out to the audience that he is the one with terminal cancer, not Blair.
How does one prove a negative?

For example, I don't have an apple. How do I prove this?
Whoosh ...


whistle

BeeRoad

684 posts

163 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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enioldjoe said:
BeeRoad said:
cymtriks said:
They're wrong.

The motion his nothing at all to do with the existence of any diety or what their plan may be.

The motion specifically proposes that religion is a force for good.

As religions usually emphasise good deads and moral codes and the vast majority of religious people try to follow these guidelines it would seem that this is a reasonable statement.

Or, to put it another way, if everyone started aiming to follow the ten commandments, forgive others and be charitable would this be good or bad?
Including this one?

Ex 20 vs 5 "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, punishing children for the iniquity of parents, to the third and the fourth generation of those who reject me"

Sounds like a nasty piece of work to me, this god.
vs 6 ".....but showing mercy to thousands to those who love Me and keep My Commandments."

Edited by enioldjoe on Sunday 28th November 10:26
So, rather like any human dictator then - do as I say and you live, disagree and I will kill four generations of your children. Nice.

Eric Mc

122,165 posts

266 months

Sunday 28th November 2010
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"Revenge is mine" - sayeth the Lord.