Bomber Command Memorial will attract VAT

Bomber Command Memorial will attract VAT

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219 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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Change in law could leave Bomber Command Memorial with £250k VAT bill
The Bomber Command Memorial to 55,573 airmen who died in the Second World War could be hit by a £250,000 VAT bill because of a change in the law.

Telegraph

Piss is not boiling, I just feel cold fury.

thatone1967

4,193 posts

191 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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an opportunity for the government to do the right thing... (waive the VAT) let's hope they take it...

Jasandjules

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229 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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thatone1967 said:
an opportunity for the government to do the right thing... (waive the VAT) let's hope they take it...
You know, as it's CMD and not Brown, I think they will.


Victor McDade

4,395 posts

182 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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Hopefully common sense will prevail.

If not then its about time religious organisations who masquerade as charities are forced to pay VAT when building lavish multi million pound churches, mosques and temples. 'We're all in this together' after all.





Edited by Victor McDade on Tuesday 28th December 20:23

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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Victor McDade said:
Hopefully common sense will prevail.

If not then its about time religious organisations who masquerade as charities are forced to pay VAT when building lavish multi million pound churches, mosques and temples. 'We're all in this together' after all.





Edited by Victor McDade on Tuesday 28th December 20:23
Don't they?

Charities do not receive automatic exemption from having to pay VAT - nor do they receive automatic exemption from having to charge VAT.

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

262 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Victor McDade said:
Hopefully common sense will prevail.

If not then its about time religious organisations who masquerade as charities are forced to pay VAT when building lavish multi million pound churches, mosques and temples. 'We're all in this together' after all.





Edited by Victor McDade on Tuesday 28th December 20:23
Don't they?

Charities do not receive automatic exemption from having to pay VAT - nor do they receive automatic exemption from having to charge VAT.
Yes Eric you are 100% right, just ask the RNLI what happened to them last year, bloody disgraceful!!

voyds9

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283 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Do we really need a £4.9m memorial

Eric Mc

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265 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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voyds9 said:
Do we really need a £4.9m memorial
The fact that you are asking this question fills me with despair.

andymadmak

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270 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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voyds9 said:
Do we really need a £4.9m memorial
Yes.


thatone1967

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191 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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I wonder if voyds9 actually meant to say, does the memorial need to COST £4.9 million ( not that I begrudge those heroes a penny)

Engineer1

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209 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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andymadmak said:
voyds9 said:
Do we really need a £4.9m memorial
Yes.
Yes, in fact we need more effort putting in to remembering the 1st and 2nd world war dead and veterans.

I am a Cub leader, and some of the cubs where moaning about how long the Remembrance day march is, we seem to be getting to the point that the young don't know anyone who fought in the war or whose lives where altered by the war.

Eric Mc

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265 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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To be honest, I bet they were moaning in 1950 too.

Whether the memorial should cost £4.9 million is a matter of debate. Whether a memorial is required is not.

thatone1967

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191 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Eric Mc said:
Whether the memorial should cost £4.9 million is a matter of debate. Whether a memorial is required is not.
Agree 100%!

A little peice about my ex wife's Grand father who won a vc, just one of the thousands of heroes... THIS is why we need the memorial..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cyril_Jackson

Edited by thatone1967 on Thursday 30th December 14:27

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Engineer1 said:
we seem to be getting to the point that the young don't know anyone who fought in the war or whose lives where altered by the war.
I think, sadly, that this is the case - and the more the years go on, the less attention will be paid to memorials & the memories of those who were lost during the wars.

World War 2 teachings are (or were) missing off the Curriculum for KS3 History, but WW1 was included. I think this needs changing - I can still vividly remember my visit to Ypres & the Somme memorials, probably the most worthwhile trip I ever undertook at school.

The youngest (legal/18+) soldier involved in WW2 will be 83 now, so I doubt anyone born now will ever learn about the war from first hand accounts.

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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thatone1967 said:
Agree 100%!

A little peice about my ex wife's Grand father who won a vc, just one of the thousands of heroes... THIS is why we need the memorial..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Cyril_Jackson
Did the family sell the medal?

It must be a hard decision to make when a treasured possession is worth so much, and if you needed the money.

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Mattt said:
Engineer1 said:
we seem to be getting to the point that the young don't know anyone who fought in the war or whose lives where altered by the war.
I think, sadly, that this is the case - and the more the years go on, the less attention will be paid to memorials & the memories of those who were lost during the wars.

World War 2 teachings are (or were) missing off the Curriculum for KS3 History, but WW1 was included. I think this needs changing - I can still vividly remember my visit to Ypres & the Somme memorials, probably the most worthwhile trip I ever undertook at school.

The youngest (legal/18+) soldier involved in WW2 will be 83 now, so I doubt anyone born now will ever learn about the war from first hand accounts.
I've often wondered why the "educationalists" put more weight on knowledge of WW1 compared to WW2? Was it, I wonder, because they perceived the treatment of the "ordinary Tommy" as evidence of a "Class War" element of WW1 which fitted in with their 1960s socialist agenda?
Also, did no one write poems in WW2? Where are all the WW2 poets?
Or is it just that the educationalists felt that WW1 poetry also backed up their view of the class system?.

Mattt

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218 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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I asked at the time, and was told by my History teacher that they thought it would be of interest to boys and not girls. True or not, don't know.

thatone1967

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191 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Mattt said:
I asked at the time, and was told by my History teacher that they thought it would be of interest to boys and not girls. True or not, don't know.
It's not stuff that should be of interest...it's stuff we should ALL know....

Eric Mc

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Thursday 30th December 2010
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thatone1967 said:
Mattt said:
I asked at the time, and was told by my History teacher that they thought it would be of interest to boys and not girls. True or not, don't know.
It's not stuff that should be of interest...it's stuff we should ALL know....
What about WW1 is more interesting to girls compared to WW2 - or any other war for that matter?

jeff m

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258 months

Thursday 30th December 2010
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Eric Mc said:
thatone1967 said:
Mattt said:
I asked at the time, and was told by my History teacher that they thought it would be of interest to boys and not girls. True or not, don't know.
It's not stuff that should be of interest...it's stuff we should ALL know....
What about WW1 is more interesting to girls compared to WW2 - or any other war for that matter?
Maybe because it would be difficult to discuss WWII without including Churchill. He was about as far as you can get from a Labour hero.