Not a clue, but at least he has the "right instincts"

Not a clue, but at least he has the "right instincts"

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andymadmak

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14,578 posts

271 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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So our Shadow Postman, sorry Shadow Chancellor gets something important really rather wrong, but thats OK cos Ed says he has the right intincts.
Ed also says Labours spending the country to bankruptcy was a good move, and wants to know what the Coalition is going to do about the "lost generation" - My question, who lost this particular generation?
Honestly, has Ed already forgotten who was in power for 13 of the last 14 years?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12149908

TEKNOPUG

18,968 posts

206 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Does any of the following remotely qualify someone to run the nation's finances?

He passed the 11 plus exam and attended Sloane Grammar School in Chelsea, now part of Pimlico Academy, and left school at the age of 15.[3] He then stacked shelves at Tesco before becoming a postman at 18.[2] He was interested in music and joined two pop music bands.[3] Johnson joined the Union of Communication Workers, becoming a branch official. He joined the Labour Party in 1971, although he considered himself a Marxist ideologically aligned with the Communist Party of Great Britain.[4] A full-time union official from 1987, he became General Secretary of the newly formed Communication Workers Union in 1993 following a series of union mergers.

Before entering Parliament Johnson was a member of Labour's National Executive Committee. During this time he was the only major union leader to support the abolition of Clause IV.


Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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s the lot of them.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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TEKNOPUG said:
Does any of the following remotely qualify someone to run the nation's finances?
Can you list the qualification of George Osborne?

andymadmak

Original Poster:

14,578 posts

271 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Fittster said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Does any of the following remotely qualify someone to run the nation's finances?
Can you list the qualification of George Osborne?
Fair point, He's not done much. He does have an Oxbridge degree though, which implies he's no dummy

I suppose that in the halls of the blind, the one eyed man is king...

TEKNOPUG

18,968 posts

206 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Fittster said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Does any of the following remotely qualify someone to run the nation's finances?
Can you list the qualification of George Osborne?
He's an MP for a party that is in government.

Slightly more qualified than Johnson but that's the best that I could do hehe

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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He was probably forgetting that they never got around to putting it up to 20

What gets me about that, it's not the fact that Labour are a bunch of wkers because we know that already. But how on earth do the BBC decide that this is the second most imporant news story today? Can they be an more blatant about their unhealthy obsession with all things Labour?

The other day I clicked an article that said "First 100 Days Leadership" or somethng, thinking it would be about the Prime Minister's leadership of the coalition government, but no, Ed Milliband's first 100 days leading his vile band of crooks.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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andymadmak said:

Honestly, has Ed already forgotten who was in power for 13 of the last 14 years?
I belive the correct answer to this in the little book of labour lies is

Thatcher

crankedup

25,764 posts

244 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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It has taken the Conservative Party twenty years and counting to shake off the Thatcher image which apparently so damaged them. It will take Labour five years to be re-elected, not because they deserve to be but the Coalition have such harsh Policies to see this Country have any chance of getting out of the mire that a huge swath of the population will forget Brown/Blairs years and hope Labour have improved.
hippy

1A

684 posts

163 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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Fittster said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Does any of the following remotely qualify someone to run the nation's finances?
Can you list the qualification of George Osborne?
When it comes to being chancellor, I'll take a 2:1 in History from Oxford any day over 'left school at 15 to stack shelves and join the communist party'. smile

1A

684 posts

163 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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crankedup said:
It has taken the Conservative Party twenty years and counting to shake off the Thatcher image which apparently so damaged them. It will take Labour five years to be re-elected, not because they deserve to be but the Coalition have such harsh Policies to see this Country have any chance of getting out of the mire that a huge swath of the population will forget Brown/Blairs years and hope Labour have improved.
hippy
Like me, you should be old enough to remember when a tough public service cutting Conservative government came up against a lefty labour leader foisted on the PLP largely by the unions who everyone said would get labour straight back in to power in 1983 because the electorate simply wouldn't stand the harsh policies and forget about what labout did to the country between '76 and '79. That man was Michael Foot. He failed and was replaced by Kinnock who continued to fail spectacularly despite a government with many unpopular but necessary policies. Like pundits back then, you fatally miscalculate the ability of the electorate to stomach bitter medicine when there is no credible alternative. To the great relief of many Conservatives, the postman and Ed are about as credible as Foot and Kinnock. We must be very grateful that the unions chose your leader, rather than your party or your voters. smile

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
andymadmak said:

Honestly, has Ed already forgotten who was in power for 13 of the last 14 years?
I belive the correct answer to this in the little book of labour lies is

Thatcher
It's unbelievable isn't it?

Minigland said:
If David Cameron is really concerned about jobs, he should do more to address a lost generation of young people.
Seriously, wtf!

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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I was listening to that little turd earlier and was almost speechless when he said that Labour had governed the best economy the country had seen post war, better than the Conservatives had left them with.

I then spat feathers - how dare they! It isn't even being creative, it's a down right fabrication. The only reason that the economy was working was they left the same policies in place from the previous Government. As soon as Brown started thinking for himself, it went tits up.

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

210 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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This country needs a completely new political party and process

irked

nonuts

15,855 posts

230 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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TEKNOPUG said:
Does any of the following remotely qualify someone to run the nation's finances?

He passed the 11 plus exam and attended Sloane Grammar School in Chelsea, now part of Pimlico Academy, and left school at the age of 15.[3] He then stacked shelves at Tesco before becoming a postman at 18.[2] He was interested in music and joined two pop music bands.[3] Johnson joined the Union of Communication Workers, becoming a branch official. He joined the Labour Party in 1971, although he considered himself a Marxist ideologically aligned with the Communist Party of Great Britain.[4] A full-time union official from 1987, he became General Secretary of the newly formed Communication Workers Union in 1993 following a series of union mergers.

Before entering Parliament Johnson was a member of Labour's National Executive Committee. During this time he was the only major union leader to support the abolition of Clause IV.
Quite the opposite I'd say, in fact people like this should be banned somehow from taking any position of power in government.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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An article from May 2010 - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/77166...

Talks about the team behind the Treasury. I've always seen any senior minister purely as a mouthpiece and front man for the whole department. Someone who sets the main objectives, takes the combined intelligence of the team, aligns policy so the fundamentals are looked after and then manages the implementation.

This is where Brown failed - he believed that he knew better than all the experts, which he plainly didn't, and went his own way with disastrous results - the gold sell off being a prime example. I always get the feeling that Labour fix policy (if they even do that) and then try and reverse engineer everything else when it's often not possible.

If Osborne does as he's told by those that know then the chances are he'll be there or there abouts.


Edited by Asterix on Monday 10th January 14:03

lauda

3,481 posts

208 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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1A said:
Fittster said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Does any of the following remotely qualify someone to run the nation's finances?
Can you list the qualification of George Osborne?
When it comes to being chancellor, I'll take a 2:1 in History from Oxford any day over 'left school at 15 to stack shelves and join the communist party'. smile
Don't be too relaxed about it. Gordon Brown got a PhD in History and look how that ended...

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

210 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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lauda said:
1A said:
Fittster said:
TEKNOPUG said:
Does any of the following remotely qualify someone to run the nation's finances?
Can you list the qualification of George Osborne?
When it comes to being chancellor, I'll take a 2:1 in History from Oxford any day over 'left school at 15 to stack shelves and join the communist party'. smile
Don't be too relaxed about it. Gordon Brown got a PhD in History and look how that ended...
He earned his place in history





and not in a good way

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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odyssey2200 said:
This country needs a completely new political party and process

irked
No it just needs people to not blindly vote for one of the 3 main parties....

Edited by powerstroke on Monday 10th January 16:16

powerstroke

10,283 posts

161 months

Monday 10th January 2011
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crankedup said:
It has taken the Conservative Party twenty years and counting to shake off the Thatcher image which apparently so damaged them. It will take Labour five years to be re-elected, not because they deserve to be but the Coalition have such harsh Policies to see this Country have any chance of getting out of the mire that a huge swath of the population will forget Brown/Blairs years and hope Labour have improved.
hippy
20years trying to be new labour more like !!! smash no wonder they could'nt win a majorty rolleyes