ipod sound quality

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R TOY

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1,705 posts

229 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Currently in the process of loading up my new '160Gb' Ipod classic (christmas pressie from Mrs Toy smile) Problem is i dont think sound quality from the ipod is as good as from my old Sony HD3 walkman. Or is it my imagination?
Sound has a slight harsh edge, as if the input was to high from recording ?
Trouble is now i'm tuned in constantly listening for it.
Am i being paraniod or do others find the same? Hate to think the 30 odd Gb i've now loaded isnt right.

Mr_Yogi

3,279 posts

256 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Have you converted the files from an already lossy format (ATRAC?) to another losy format or changed the bitrate while loading them into iTunes? This will effect the sound quality.

I have an HD1 which plays 256bit ATRAC files taken from high quality vbr WMA files (not WMA lossless) and think it sounds pretty good, but I've also listened to various iPods with high quality files and though they were fine too.

Have you tried ripping a CD directly with iTunes and putting that on the iPod?

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Same headphones or the supplied ipod headphones?

Same encoding?

I dont find my ipod 5th gen harsh but most of my stuff is mp3 at 192 or higher and I use sennheiser headphones.

R TOY

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Wednesday 19th January 2011
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Some files have been converted from atrac but then a lot is newly imported. (256 bitrate)
To be fair i think the sound is slightly better on newly imported tracks but maybe i'm being overly critical.
Not using the ipod headphones but some decent ones, (not sure of make tho.)


Edited by R TOY on Wednesday 19th January 23:31

Zad

12,710 posts

237 months

Wednesday 19th January 2011
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No, it isn't as good as Walkman quality. Even with lossless conversion and Sennheiser 200s, it just doesn't seem to have that presence that a good Walkman did through a pair of MDR-40s. Then again, it seems like you have to pay quite a bit to get any digital reproduction better than final generation analogue tape.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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Zad said:
No, it isn't as good as Walkman quality. Even with lossless conversion and Sennheiser 200s, it just doesn't seem to have that presence that a good Walkman did through a pair of MDR-40s. Then again, it seems like you have to pay quite a bit to get any digital reproduction better than final generation analogue tape.
I'm guessing the 'Sony HD3 walkman' is an mp3 player not a tape or cd player.

Tape was mostly iffy anyhw a good compressed digital file will be better.

R TOY

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229 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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I'm guessing the 'Sony HD3 walkman' is an mp3 player not a tape or cd player.

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Zad

12,710 posts

237 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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I'm risking sounding like a vinyl type obsessive, but tape was... different. Nowadays many digital sources are compressed / companded artificually, whereas on tape it was as noisy as hell but ironically had a greater dynamic range.

Would I go back? Probably not, but unless you have heard the sound from a Pro Walkman or a Nakamichi Dragon, you haven't heard what tape could really do. No portable mp3 player I have used comes anywhere near the Pro Walkman's sound quality.

Have you tried a small portable headphone amp? They do make a considerable difference.

Finlandia

7,803 posts

232 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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For the best consumer mp3 sound, Cowon is the one to beat.

There is a rockbox port in development for the classic, that will help the sound quality of it.

Fatman2

1,464 posts

170 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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Zad said:
I'm risking sounding like a vinyl type obsessive, but tape was... different. Nowadays many digital sources are compressed / companded artificually, whereas on tape it was as noisy as hell but ironically had a greater dynamic range.

Would I go back? Probably not, but unless you have heard the sound from a Pro Walkman or a Nakamichi Dragon, you haven't heard what tape could really do. No portable mp3 player I have used comes anywhere near the Pro Walkman's sound quality.

Have you tried a small portable headphone amp? They do make a considerable difference.
I think Nakamichi tape decks were, by and large, noiseless IMHO. Personally I would bet that even a DR2 or 3 would give an iPod a run for it's money.

Sadly tapes aren't too convenient in this day and age but then my records aren't too convenient either smile

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 20th January 2011
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Info I've found on Nakamichi tape decks seems to say they toped out at 72db dynamic range, vs 96 for cd, not sure what mp3 can go to, guess it depends on the encoding.