Raymond Davis - how important is this situation?

Raymond Davis - how important is this situation?

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Spiritual_Beggar

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4,833 posts

195 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-1247733...


So the Pakistani people are making quite a big deal out of this apparently.

Now given the importance of Pakistan in the region, how important could this situation turn out to be?



Basically, the US are claiming he is a diplomat, and therefore immune to Pakistani court prosecution. The Pakistani people on the otherhand are calling for this guys head!

The Pakistani government are caught in the middle, as on one side they risk enraging the public by releasing Raymond Davis....and on the other they risk upsetting the US government, which could result in withdrawl of substantial monetary "aid".

Various threats being made by both sides....and given the strong links to terrorism and the ability to control terrorism in th region, are these threats to be taken seriously?

ianash

3,274 posts

184 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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In last weeks Economist, they were saying there is an ongoing battle between the judiciary and the govt, with both sides ttrying to court the ignorant masses. This won't end well.

Magog

2,652 posts

190 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Theres no way he isn't CIA though is there, just judging from his build, demeanour and the way he behaved in the short bits of video released on the internet. Does that change his status?

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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Magog said:
Theres no way he isn't CIA though is there, just judging from his build, demeanour and the way he behaved in the short bits of video released on the internet. Does that change his status?
That and the shooting 2 people with the advantage of diplomatic immunity.

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

183 months

Thursday 17th February 2011
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The Pakistani President, the corrupt thief and our man, Zardari is under continuous pressure at home for being too pro American. He's currently caught between a rock and a hard place. This could all be a drama to show people at home he's actually not too pro-American and is his own man.

Give it a few weeks and Davis will be released.

Police State

4,068 posts

221 months

Friday 18th February 2011
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Magog said:
Theres no way he isn't CIA though is there, just judging from his build, demeanour and the way he behaved in the short bits of video released on the internet. Does that change his status?
"this man has diplomatic immunity as an administrator of technical employees of the embassy of the United States in Islamabad" said Senator Kerry...


what else could he be?...

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

183 months

Wednesday 23rd February 2011
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It appears this Davis chap is a bit more important than most people initially thought:





Telegraph said:
Raymond Davis 'was acting head of CIA in Pakistan'
A US intelligence agent arrested after shooting dead two men was the acting head of the CIA in Pakistan and had been gathering intelligence for drone attacks, according to intelligence sources.
Full story

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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He's been released.


BBC said:
A Pakistani court has acquitted a US CIA contractor of two counts of murder at a hearing held at a prison in Lahore, a government official has said.

Raymond Davis, 36, was alleged to have shot dead two men in the eastern city of Lahore in January following what he said was an attempted armed robbery.

The acquittal came when relatives of the dead men pardoned him in court.

They confirmed to the judge overseeing the case that they had received compensation - known as "blood money".

Under Pakistani law, relatives of a murder victim can pardon the killer.

Reports say about 18 family members of the two dead men were in court on Wednesday and confirmed that they wanted Mr Davis to be freed and pardoned because they had received "blood money".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-12757244

MX7

7,902 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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That's a very strange system. It's good that the situation has been resolved though. It could have become quite awkward.

Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Apparently being lead singer of The Kinks was only a cover story.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Amazing what issues money can smooth out.

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Fittster said:
Amazing what issues money can smooth out.
Indeed - the world may well be divided on tribal, racial and religious grounds but when the st hits the fan one thing will unify us all, the great dollar bill.

s1962a

5,351 posts

163 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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MX7 said:
That's a very strange system. It's good that the situation has been resolved though. It could have become quite awkward.
It's the old eye for an eye custom, where you can also buy out your freedom. The other party has to agree to it though. I can imagine in a country like that getting a few £k so the widows can provide for their family means more than locking the guy up. Saying that though, I wonder how much choice the families actually had in the matter?

Eric Mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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Islamic Law allows "buy outs" from prison sentences.

Harris_I

3,228 posts

260 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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s1962a said:
MX7 said:
That's a very strange system. It's good that the situation has been resolved though. It could have become quite awkward.
It's the old eye for an eye custom, where you can also buy out your freedom. The other party has to agree to it though. I can imagine in a country like that getting a few £k so the widows can provide for their family means more than locking the guy up. Saying that though, I wonder how much choice the families actually had in the matter?
None whatsoever. Too much aid money at stake.


Victor McDade

4,395 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th March 2011
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s1962a said:
It's the old eye for an eye custom, where you can also buy out your freedom. The other party has to agree to it though. I can imagine in a country like that getting a few £k so the widows can provide for their family means more than locking the guy up. Saying that though, I wonder how much choice the families actually had in the matter?
Indeed. One of the widows even killed herself claiming the state would never give her justice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-1237903...


However, it's not just Islamic culture that does this. Don't the Japanese have a similar system?