Dream School - Jamie Oliver
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Interesting viewing.
I am intrigued to see how these experts in their fields do. I am assuming little teaching experience. Hopefully this will give anybody watching an insight into what teachers have to deal with every day.
I have to say that David Starkey was completely out of order. I can't see that going well for him were he a real teacher.
I am intrigued to see how these experts in their fields do. I am assuming little teaching experience. Hopefully this will give anybody watching an insight into what teachers have to deal with every day.
I have to say that David Starkey was completely out of order. I can't see that going well for him were he a real teacher.
You can see why they've got no qualifications - a severe lack of respect and attention.
I would pay good money to be doing what they are being given. I hope they manage to see whats on offer.
I'm not much of a Rolf Harris fan but I felt for him when he was saying he felt he should have done more to help them engage in the class.
I would pay good money to be doing what they are being given. I hope they manage to see whats on offer.
I'm not much of a Rolf Harris fan but I felt for him when he was saying he felt he should have done more to help them engage in the class.
Eric Mc said:
Schlock Telly.
I prefer to be educated by TV bu watching Attenborough.
True, but I'm not watching it to be educated per se (I listened at school I prefer to be educated by TV bu watching Attenborough.
), but to see the reactions of those concerned. Hoping the teaching profession might come out of it with a bit more respect when people see that teaching is not just about "knowing your subject".NiceCupOfTea said:
True, but I'm not watching it to be educated per se (I listened at school ), but to see the reactions of those concerned. Hoping the teaching profession might come out of it with a bit more respect when people see that teaching is not just about "knowing your subject".
Totally agree - it is a ridiculously hard job, made harder by the fact that respect is non existent, and the fact targets are ever increasing, and yet time and budget are ever decreasing! Madness! Society has a lot to answer for right now IMHO! ), but to see the reactions of those concerned. Hoping the teaching profession might come out of it with a bit more respect when people see that teaching is not just about "knowing your subject".A really good program I think. These kids just go to show the state of todays younger society, no respect, can't listen and just plain rude. I agree with what someone else said about Starky's comments, he was bloody rude to that lad. He's excellent at History, but just not a natural teacher.
I watched with great interest, even though I've been out of school for a long time I'd love to sit through any of the lessons those kids had. I'd also like to know what car Robert Winston was driving.
The other thing that struck me was that the pupils went on about respect without doing anything to earn the respect of their teachers. Kids, you want respect? Sit down, shut up and listen. And you have to learn that some people command respect because of their position, whether that's your teacher, your boss, a policeman or whoever.
That said, David Starkey shouldn't have said what he did, but under the circumstances I can see how it happened.
The other thing that struck me was that the pupils went on about respect without doing anything to earn the respect of their teachers. Kids, you want respect? Sit down, shut up and listen. And you have to learn that some people command respect because of their position, whether that's your teacher, your boss, a policeman or whoever.
That said, David Starkey shouldn't have said what he did, but under the circumstances I can see how it happened.
Symbolica said:
ALASTAIR CAMPBELL is going to be the politics teacher?!? Is that supposed to be a wind-up? 
I actually think he is a good choice. Regardless of whether you agree with his views, he is undoubtedly a superb political operator in the same way Mandleson is. He understands the way politics works and how people react to it. That is how he was successful in persuading the country to vote for Blair.anonymous said:
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No excuse for personal attacks on pupils. As a teacher you have to be above retaliatory comments, let alone "first strikes" even if they are behaving like little s
tes! Quite apart from that, if you rise to them you have lost them. They have a wedge and will keep driving it in until you lose it.He would be in some very hot water if he acted like that in a real school.
NiceCupOfTea said:
No excuse for personal attacks on pupils. As a teacher you have to be above retaliatory comments, let alone "first strikes" even if they are behaving like little stes! Quite apart from that, if you rise to them you have lost them. They have a wedge and will keep driving it in until you lose it.
He would be in some very hot water if he acted like that in a real school.
but he was fat tes! Quite apart from that, if you rise to them you have lost them. They have a wedge and will keep driving it in until you lose it.He would be in some very hot water if he acted like that in a real school.
As I said, schlock TV.
I am tiring of the whole trend in TV to have "celebrities" of various sorts stepping in to show how things should be done or might be done. It is downright insulting to those who carry out these jobs as professionals
Panorama's programme on the use of the ex-military in education on Monday was far more revealing - and serious, than this load of old cobblers.
I am tiring of the whole trend in TV to have "celebrities" of various sorts stepping in to show how things should be done or might be done. It is downright insulting to those who carry out these jobs as professionals
Panorama's programme on the use of the ex-military in education on Monday was far more revealing - and serious, than this load of old cobblers.
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