Tsunami aftermath - clean up

Tsunami aftermath - clean up

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Blakeatron

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2,517 posts

175 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Looking at the videos and pictures of what is left after the tsunami hit - how will they move the big ships, large 'waste' that has gathered in the towns and cities?

One video in particular shows 2 very large ships/boats on their side in the middle of a town - crane or cut them up?

Also will insurance pay for the clean up? If so whos - or will the government pay

lankybob

1,712 posts

192 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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I cant see how the insurance companies can pay for all of this, they just wont have enough money for it.
The government would have to fork out I would imagine, although I don't know what they do about personal things like cars and such.
As for the ships, cutting them up seems like the only way to get them out of there.

Pints

18,444 posts

196 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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They've already been talking about the government taking out further loans to pay for it. And Japan are already one of the most indebted first-world countries.

Brighton Derly

597 posts

161 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Pints said:
They've already been talking about the government taking out further loans to pay for it. And Japan are already one of the most indebted first-world countries.
Japan is the second most indebted country in the world with debts amounting to 225% of GDP.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world...


maniac0796

1,292 posts

168 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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I just can't comprehend how you clean something like that up. Where does it all go, how do you start again?

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Where would you start?

Mojooo

12,812 posts

182 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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maniac0796 said:
I just can't comprehend how you clean something like that up. Where does it all go, how do you start again?
dump it in the sea 'outside the environment'

reference to the end of this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWPwlMv8lNI

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Blue Meanie said:
Where would you start?
At the beginning.

I'm sure Japan has a lot of quake insurance, NZ certainly does , though this will cost a lot more to fix than Christchurch.

There will be massive amounts of people and plant mobalised to the affected areas (50,000 rescue workers already etc) , bulldoze everything in sight then start rebuilding.

Hard-Drive

4,102 posts

231 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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A guy I know works for a salvage company (he was in "Salvage Code Red" and was involved in the clean up of New Orleans where ships ended up balanced on dykes and the like...I would not be surprised if they end up out there on this job...

Brighton Derly

597 posts

161 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Blakeatron said:
One video in particular shows 2 very large ships/boats on their side in the middle of a town - crane or cut them up?
Blow them to pieces.

Pints

18,444 posts

196 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
Japan is the second most indebted country in the world with debts amounting to 225% of GDP.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world...
Thanks thumbup

I thought it was something like that. Was surprised to hear it though, I thought their exports would have improved things over the years.

mikef

4,920 posts

253 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Found at http://www.asahi.com/photonews/gallery/110313tsuna...



I suspect this is not the best time to be a Lloyds Name

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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mikef said:
I suspect this is not the best time to be a Lloyds Name
$~15bn+ for NZ, $40-50bn+ for Japan , nope.

Simpo Two

85,865 posts

267 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Somehow they managed to clear up the whole of Europe after two World Wars. It's just a question of labour.

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Somehow they managed to clear up the whole of Europe after two World Wars. It's just a question of labour.
It took about 25 years to clear up after WW2.

Simpo Two

85,865 posts

267 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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The damage done by the tsunami, shocking though it is to a generation that has only known peace and computer games, is probably no more than that caused by one major bombing raid. When the st hits the fan money isn't actally important, it's the people on the ground that count - and Japan seems to be doing a very good job.

Tsippy

15,078 posts

171 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Simpo Two said:
The damage done by the tsunami, shocking though it is to a generation that has only known peace and computer games, is probably no more than that caused by one major bombing raid. When the st hits the fan money isn't actally important, it's the people on the ground that count - and Japan seems to be doing a very good job.
The Japanese work ethic will see things back to normal pretty quick I would have thought. Dread to think how the UK would eventually respond (if people could be bothered) if we suffered what Japan did.

mcdjl

5,452 posts

197 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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mikef said:
Found at http://www.asahi.com/photonews/gallery/110313tsuna...



I suspect this is not the best time to be a Lloyds Name
Excepting the rather large boat there seems to be surprisingly little damage in that picture- the telegraph pole etc is intact which just seems incongruous.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

257 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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Tsippy said:
The Japanese work ethic will see things back to normal pretty quick I would have thought. Dread to think how the UK would eventually respond (if people could be bothered) if we suffered what Japan did.
Why would you think we would react any differently? Most humans are the same, and most will do good by their friends and family in times on need.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

256 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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People may suprise you in this kind of situation.

Generaly the people who will be clearing up and rebuilding will be positive contributing & skilled people already. The doleite chav scum probably wont help much.

But a big suprise in chch has been the student army, started by one student organising a small group of mates a couple of days later we had 1000's of students with wheelbarrows & spades, arranged their own busses food etc & are still going strong.

Also the chch baking army have done an ace job supplying food to lots of people.