Thieving Carer - caught in the act

[Loteuk]

Anyone have any legal advice for recourse here - suspected a carer was stealing cash from mums handbag in her house (my mother is confined to a chair with MS and thought the missing cash was just overspend until we started a book), so over the last 3 weeks I have set cameras to catch her- also took serial numbers and marked all the notes.

Camera's caught her in the act on Thursday taking £20 from mums handbag and I gave all the info to the Police. (She's had about £400 in total thats gone missing over the xmas period, and a few other bits since, that we can count since )
Police were only able to caution her when she finally admitted that the incident after arrest , she claimed it was a was a one off ????

Here employer obviously carries out the checks for this type of employment but hasn t even tried to apologies to mum...

Nice little earner if she's going around doing this to all her invalid clients.

Anyway, again, would anyone have any ideas how I might recover something....employers liability?

Police said it would be unwise to youtube it

What would you do?

Edited by Loteuk on Sunday 20th March 17:01

Edited by Loteuk on Sunday 20th March 17:01

[Regiment]

Why did you confront her after only 1 time, surely if you had kept it going for longer and recorded it nicking stuff on multiple occassions, even by tempting her and leaving money lying around as well, you'd have get a better response from the police and the employers?

[NiceCupOfTea]

Can't help with you, but I really hope karma gets this bh.

[WeirdNeville]

Police have done all they can (not sure I would have cautioned- abuse of a vulnerable person etc but I don't know full facts).
CRB checks should now prevent this person working in that capacity again, I assume their employer knows?

Well done for catching a bad egg, but I'm not sure you really need to twist the knife.

Sorry: Edit: Certainly look into civil options for recovering the money. This could have been done as conditions for a conditional caution - did the police ask you about this? Was it discussed as an option?

Either way, the caution is a done deal but consider civil action to recover money. Police will give carers details for legal action if you don't have them already.

Edited by WeirdNeville on Sunday 20th March 17:09

[Loteuk]

The police took the decision to do it at that time, I would add she is about to go on maternity leave and this was part of their judgement, plus the fact that they might get her in possession.

[megatron]

In all honesty there isnt anything you can really do. Shame really as i can imagine your beyond fuming. Lets hope she rots in hell.
But congratulations on stopping one more scumbag.

[Dog Star]

Why cant you YouTube it? What's the offence? The carer cannot say it's libel or defamation - it's established fact.

[Loteuk]

I guess the police got lucky too, they apparently have to jump through hoops to get permission to install cameras.

It infuriating knowing she has almost got away with the crime altogether and will probably do the same again without hesitation.
I'm going to write to the employer and the authorities anyway just for my own benefit - at least I can be sure its recorded on their records even if the crb (?) is slow to filter onto her record.

[Pearcyy]

Youtube it... If they won't do anything we can make sure she isn't employed as a care worker again.

[Shaw Tarse]

Is there any way the local paper may find out about her

[Bridgewaterfalls]

Does your Mum have a social worker?

I would strongly advise you to contact social services. This ought to trigger an adult protection investigation as this carer is probably working as more than just your Mum's carer. Leaving it to the agency is not good enough, as you can see from the response you have had. They seem to take this very seriously and liase with police teams that specialise in vunerable adult protection.

Hope your Mum is not too shook up by this.

[p4cks]

YouTube it. Then someone may recognise her and name her. Then the local rag might have a tip off. You can see where I am going with this

[Andehh]

Shaw Tarse said:

Is there any way the local paper may find out about her

This.

[Loteuk]

Maybe I will youtube something - indirectly and subtle (my car and boat stuff is up there under c15pot). But then she will be dealing with the what ifs.

From studying the evidence each evening over the past 3 weeks it should be said that all of the other carers were solid, caring and very professional people.

I think the letter to the employer might help mums loss, even if its some flowers (goes a long way with old people so I am constantly reminded)

[Loteuk]

Bridgewaterfalls said:

Does your Mum have a social worker?

I would strongly advise you to contact social services. This ought to trigger an adult protection investigation as this carer is probably working as more than just your Mum's carer. Leaving it to the agency is not good enough, as you can see from the response you have had. They seem to take this very seriously and liase with police teams that specialise in vunerable adult protection.

Hope your Mum is not too shook up by this.

This is good to hear, don t know the social welfare system too well but will follow this up - might get some support for mums anxiousness.
They should be informed at the very least.

I'm sure the local paper might be interested, don t know if they could name names?

[Shaw Tarse]

Loteuk said:

Bridgewaterfalls said:

Does your Mum have a social worker?

I would strongly advise you to contact social services. This ought to trigger an adult protection investigation as this carer is probably working as more than just your Mum's carer. Leaving it to the agency is not good enough, as you can see from the response you have had. They seem to take this very seriously and liase with police teams that specialise in vunerable adult protection.

Hope your Mum is not too shook up by this.

This is good to hear, don t know the social welfare system too well but will follow this up - might get some support for mums anxiousness.
They should be informed at the very least.

I'm sure the local paper might be interested, don t know if they could name names?

You might want to contact your local Councillor/MP/Mayor?
Please get the thieving bh sacked! & make others aware of what she has done, taking from the vunerable is not acceptable!

[Streps]

sadly, there are some carers who abuse the trust placed in them .
The small amounts soon grow in size as they get bolder


I'd stick it on the internet or go to the local press.
they love naming and shaming these scumbags.

Edited by Streps on Sunday 20th March 17:47

[Bridgewaterfalls]

Loteuk said:

This is good to hear, don t know the social welfare system too well but will follow this up - might get some support for mums anxiousness.
They should be informed at the very least.

I'm sure the local paper might be interested, don't know if they could name names?

Hold off the media until you have at least talked to social services, it might naff up any investigations. Ask for the duty adult (older persons) social worker. I got involved in a similar situation once.

[GC8]

Does the womans employer not have a vicarious liability? Do they have any sort of fidelity insurance? Remember too that simply because theyre (or perhaps one person is) too damned ignorant to apologise, it doesnt mean that they arent still responsible.

[Loteuk]

GC8 said:

Does the womans employer not have a vicarious liability? Do they have any sort of fidelity insurance? Remember too that simply because theyre (or perhaps one person is) too damned ignorant to apologise, it doesnt mean that they arent still responsible.

worth including in the letter, I understand that its not the fault of the employer, they have this worker , I assume, by default and in an ideal world it would be fair to have a little more than a caution for her actions. She blatantly lied when she said it was her first time when she was questioned. Still, innocent until proven guilty !!

Edited by Loteuk on Sunday 20th March 18:49