Renault 5 to be re-born
Discussion
Link here,
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/...
So what does everyone think, I personally love the '5 even in standard trim but I don't think it has a following like the Mini and Fiat 500 so it wouldn't sell on the name alone.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/...
So what does everyone think, I personally love the '5 even in standard trim but I don't think it has a following like the Mini and Fiat 500 so it wouldn't sell on the name alone.
hotrod scott said:
Why not think up a new design instead of keep going back to the old ones? Seems there is no creativity these days!
Agreed, although to be honest the retro-cars seem to be variations on a theme rather than a design dead-end.Think about it. If you want a retro small Fiat, you can have a 500. If you want a small Fiat featuring modern design, there's the Panda.
Same goes for the Beetle and the Golf. While it could be argued that the MINI is an annoying, dodgy 'retro' design, there's also a case to make that suggests the range that's built up represents what Austin would be building if they were still around (so long as they make a road-ready version of the Rocketman as a real 'mini' MINI).
So long as they continue to make the Clio, I don't have a problem.
k-ink said:
They really need tomake it timy with 200bhp or more. It has to slaughter the others for speed.
Yes - the thing about the original 5GT Turbo was its ability to take on the likes of the Golf GTI and 205 GTi with just a little 1.3-litre engine. Attached to a massive turbocharger.Twincam16 said:
Yes - the thing about the original 5GT Turbo was its ability to take on the likes of the Golf GTI and 205 GTi with just a little 1.3-litre engine. Attached to a massive turbocharger.
Wasn't it a 1.4? The 5GTT was a fair bit faster than the Golf GTi IIRC, wasn't it something silly like just over 7secs to 60 - weighed very little.I thought Renault had played the R4 card when they launched Kangoo. Very much a spiritual successor.
With R5 they are just getting on a retro bandwagon. They don't need to! They kept moving forward with good new ideas (eg Twingo).
Fiat went 500 as their entire range had no characterful cars (except Panda which is a modern successor to the original Panda but not retro)
Retro is retrograde. Look at what it did for Jaguar.....
Peter
With R5 they are just getting on a retro bandwagon. They don't need to! They kept moving forward with good new ideas (eg Twingo).
Fiat went 500 as their entire range had no characterful cars (except Panda which is a modern successor to the original Panda but not retro)
Retro is retrograde. Look at what it did for Jaguar.....
Peter
Twincam16 said:
Agreed, although to be honest the retro-cars seem to be variations on a theme rather than a design dead-end.
Think about it. If you want a retro small Fiat, you can have a 500. If you want a small Fiat featuring modern design, there's the Panda.
Same goes for the Beetle and the Golf. While it could be argued that the MINI is an annoying, dodgy 'retro' design, there's also a case to make that suggests the range that's built up represents what Austin would be building if they were still around (so long as they make a road-ready version of the Rocketman as a real 'mini' MINI).
So long as they continue to make the Clio, I don't have a problem.
The depressing part is it'll probably be on a clio chassis (also based on the new Nissan Micra most likely) but will cost a feck load more. Think about it. If you want a retro small Fiat, you can have a 500. If you want a small Fiat featuring modern design, there's the Panda.
Same goes for the Beetle and the Golf. While it could be argued that the MINI is an annoying, dodgy 'retro' design, there's also a case to make that suggests the range that's built up represents what Austin would be building if they were still around (so long as they make a road-ready version of the Rocketman as a real 'mini' MINI).
So long as they continue to make the Clio, I don't have a problem.
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