Cash for clunkers - destruction - is it just me or....

Cash for clunkers - destruction - is it just me or....

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TonyRPH

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12,999 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I was browsing Youtube last night, and happened to see a 'cash for clunkers' (US equivalent of the scrappage scheme I presume) destruction of a '94 BMW 530i (amongst others).

Is it just me, or do others of you on here feel like you're witnessing the death of something that has a soul - a life - like an animal?

Video is here


Matt UK

17,757 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I guess if enough people felt that way, they would buy them.

Personally, if I want to own a car I'll pay to buy and maintain as required. If I don't then I'm not really fussed what happens to it.

Sounds a bit clinical I know, but it's a lump of metal after all and the market ultimately decides it's value.

volturb40

104 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Matt UK said:
I guess if enough people felt that way, they would buy them.

Personally, if I want to own a car I'll pay to buy and maintain as required. If I don't then I'm not really fussed what happens to it.

Sounds a bit clinical I know, but it's a lump of metal after all and the market ultimately decides it's value.
As far i understand people can't buy them , once there traded in they put some glass resin i think into the engine and seize it

then its stripped for parts , crazy

OllieC

3,816 posts

215 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I think its just hugely wasteful and typical of modern 'throw it away' society

ZesPak

24,439 posts

197 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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volturb40 said:
As far i understand people can't buy them , once there traded in they put some glass resin i think into the engine and seize it

then its stripped for parts , crazy
True, but if it was a truly desirable car, surely the owner would have tried to sell it on, to get more from it than the scrappage scheme offers?

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,287 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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This gives me a hard on.

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TonyRPH

Original Poster:

12,999 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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ZesPak said:
True, but if it was a truly desirable car, surely the owner would have tried to sell it on, to get more from it than the scrappage scheme offers?
Just like the UK scrappage scheme, you get could more money by scrapping the vehicle.

The intention is to remove "old and polluting" vehicles from our roads.

But the end result is more pollution (killing off the engine) and the resulting disposal of body parts, interior etc.

These schemes are clearly not thought through very well, however well meaning they are intended to be.


John D.

17,980 posts

210 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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TonyRPH said:
ZesPak said:
True, but if it was a truly desirable car, surely the owner would have tried to sell it on, to get more from it than the scrappage scheme offers?
Just like the UK scrappage scheme, you get could more money by scrapping the vehicle.

The intention is to remove "old and polluting" vehicles from our roads.

But the end result is more pollution (killing off the engine) and the resulting disposal of body parts, interior etc.

These schemes are clearly not thought through very well, however well meaning they are intended to be.
Wasn't the scrappage scheme intended to give a boost to new car sales too? Or did I make that up?!

Agree the eco aspect is somewhat suspect when you think about the energy required to manufacture a car in the first place.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,287 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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The ONLY reason for the scrappage scheme was to boost new car sales.

Pints

18,444 posts

195 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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hora said:
No honestly what the fk? Seriously, what the fk?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP_IUk57VeA&fea...

Honestly? Why?
That really sets my teeth on edge hearing that poor engine. A ghastly waste of decent metal.

TonyRPH

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12,999 posts

169 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
The ONLY (official) reason for the scrappage scheme was to boost new car sales.
EFA biggrin

Matt UK

17,757 posts

201 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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volturb40 said:
Matt UK said:
I guess if enough people felt that way, they would buy them.

Personally, if I want to own a car I'll pay to buy and maintain as required. If I don't then I'm not really fussed what happens to it.

Sounds a bit clinical I know, but it's a lump of metal after all and the market ultimately decides it's value.
As far i understand people can't buy them , once there traded in they put some glass resin i think into the engine and seize it

then its stripped for parts , crazy
My point is, if these cars had more value than the scrappage schemes, people would buy them, non?

Gun

13,431 posts

219 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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This is the worsr one, a Merc 560SEC and it only had 89000 on the clock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKUdDyCfNLw&fea...

What a total waste!

volturb40

104 posts

182 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Matt UK said:
volturb40 said:
Matt UK said:
I guess if enough people felt that way, they would buy them.

Personally, if I want to own a car I'll pay to buy and maintain as required. If I don't then I'm not really fussed what happens to it.

Sounds a bit clinical I know, but it's a lump of metal after all and the market ultimately decides it's value.
As far i understand people can't buy them , once there traded in they put some glass resin i think into the engine and seize it

then its stripped for parts , crazy
My point is, if these cars had more value than the scrappage schemes, people would buy them, non?
Yep your right but i'm sure you'll agree some of those cars must be worth more than $4500 , maybe just an easy way of getting rid such a waste

ROB 100

97 posts

184 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I dont get it?.....
you buy a new motor coz its less polluting etc, but these tts are revving the nuts out the old work of the devill car, spewing oil~antifreezee & what not all over the place belching out shiploadss of st out the exhaust, how long / many miles does a owner of a prius have to do to offset this?
it makes a mockery of the whole save the planet crap,

Gandi69

85 posts

163 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Incredibly wasteful. If the car is worth nothing as whole to anyone have some fun breaking it for parts - thats far more interesting than blowing it up and you'll learn something.

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

193 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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TonyRPH said:
I was browsing Youtube last night, and happened to see a 'cash for clunkers' (US equivalent of the scrappage scheme I presume) destruction of a '94 BMW 530i (amongst others).

Is it just me, or do others of you on here feel like you're witnessing the death of something that has a soul - a life - like an animal?

Video is here
I don't understand why they are doing burn outs and destroying the engine that way?

Why not just crush it? confused

McSam

6,753 posts

176 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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Dr Doofenshmirtz said:
This gives me a hard on.

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Stop teasing me..

Carrot

7,294 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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I don't understand people who get emotional over cars.

It is a tool of my life to get me places without walking.

Don't care what happens to it once it is sold on. I am annoyed about the wastefullness of the scrappage scheme in the UK. Plenty of reuseable cars scrapped when they could have been sold to people that can't really afford newer cars.

supersingle

3,205 posts

220 months

Wednesday 23rd March 2011
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This is what happens when big business and big government get into bed together.

Those responsible deserve to be rendered down and used to make glue.