AF447 wreckage located...
Discussion
Kudos said:
Chuck328 said:
I wonder how this will pan out after Air Frances seemingly belligerent attitude toward recovery.
I thought it was them (and Airbus) who are paying for the search?"The search has been financed jointly by Air France and Airbus. It involves dives to depths of up to 4,000m (13,120ft) with the use of special robots to examine the ocean floor between Brazil and West Africa."
Hmm, not the best choice of words on my part (two bottles of champers and a nice red didn't help lol) however, I was referring to some comments made by a pal who works in the shipping industry. Upon looking into organising search and recovery options the feeling was AF just didn't want any outside interference. All seems quite complicated!
'a French judge filed preliminary manslaughter charges against Air France and the plane's manufacturer, Airbus.... Air France and Airbus are financing the estimated £7.7m cost of the new search - about £17m has already been spent on the three previous searches for the jet's wreckage.'
I can't help thinking that sometimes it would be best to file it under 'accident' and save the manslaughter charges and £24.7M. All that money comes from taxpayers and trvaellers.
I can't help thinking that sometimes it would be best to file it under 'accident' and save the manslaughter charges and £24.7M. All that money comes from taxpayers and trvaellers.
Simpo Two said:
'a French judge filed preliminary manslaughter charges against Air France and the plane's manufacturer, Airbus.... Air France and Airbus are financing the estimated £7.7m cost of the new search - about £17m has already been spent on the three previous searches for the jet's wreckage.'
I can't help thinking that sometimes it would be best to file it under 'accident' and save the manslaughter charges and £24.7M. All that money comes from taxpayers and trvaellers.
From someone that flies longhaul a few times a year, I would rather they spent 10 times that so that I am not the next one left at the bottom of Davy Jones' Locker!I can't help thinking that sometimes it would be best to file it under 'accident' and save the manslaughter charges and £24.7M. All that money comes from taxpayers and trvaellers.
Simpo Two said:
'a French judge filed preliminary manslaughter charges against Air France and the plane's manufacturer, Airbus.... Air France and Airbus are financing the estimated £7.7m cost of the new search - about £17m has already been spent on the three previous searches for the jet's wreckage.'
I can't help thinking that sometimes it would be best to file it under 'accident' and save the manslaughter charges and £24.7M. All that money comes from taxpayers and trvaellers.
It's the French system, different from ours.I can't help thinking that sometimes it would be best to file it under 'accident' and save the manslaughter charges and £24.7M. All that money comes from taxpayers and trvaellers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13255673
Looks like they have got one of the recorders....hopefully it will finally shed some light on the events up there
Looks like they have got one of the recorders....hopefully it will finally shed some light on the events up there
Interim update from Reuters. More to come from AF on Friday apparently:
(Reuters) - Preliminary findings from the recorders of an Air France jet that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009 have found that the pilots became distracted with malfunctioning airspeed indicators and failed to properly manage other critical systems, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
The crew did not follow standard procedures to maintain air speed and keep the aircraft's nose level after the Airbus 330 encountered some turbulence and unexpectedly high icing at 35,000 feet, the paper said.
Air France and Airbus were unavailable for comment outside business hours.
The Journal said the cockpit recorders show that the pilots apparently became confused by the alarms blaring from their instruments and despite trying to systematically respond to each warning, were unable to sort out the chaos and maintain a steady course.
The findings from the recorders, which are to be released on Friday, are expected to show that the twin-engine jet slowed dangerously after the autopilot disengaged.
The crash killed all 228 people on board Flight 447, which was on a scheduled flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.
(Reporting by Abhiram Nandakumar in Bangalore; Editing by Anshuman Daga)
(Reuters) - Preliminary findings from the recorders of an Air France jet that crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 2009 have found that the pilots became distracted with malfunctioning airspeed indicators and failed to properly manage other critical systems, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
The crew did not follow standard procedures to maintain air speed and keep the aircraft's nose level after the Airbus 330 encountered some turbulence and unexpectedly high icing at 35,000 feet, the paper said.
Air France and Airbus were unavailable for comment outside business hours.
The Journal said the cockpit recorders show that the pilots apparently became confused by the alarms blaring from their instruments and despite trying to systematically respond to each warning, were unable to sort out the chaos and maintain a steady course.
The findings from the recorders, which are to be released on Friday, are expected to show that the twin-engine jet slowed dangerously after the autopilot disengaged.
The crash killed all 228 people on board Flight 447, which was on a scheduled flight from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.
(Reporting by Abhiram Nandakumar in Bangalore; Editing by Anshuman Daga)
Simpo Two said:
How can you fail to recover from a stall at 35,000 feet? Too much instrumentation and alarms? Where was the horizon?
With full nose up trim in turbulence, night time, circadian rhythm, information overload....Quite easily by the looks of things. There by the grace of fate go I....
I just put up a post in the News section might help.
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