So, Iceland says "sod off you cant have your money back"

So, Iceland says "sod off you cant have your money back"

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davido140

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13022524

Is anyone in the financial industry ever going to touch that country with a bargepole ever again?

The government over there dont seem too happy with the result of the vote, are they going to have to resort to an economy based on reindeers, hot-springs, christmas trees and bjork?



Eric Mc

122,288 posts

267 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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They're just codding.

Thom987

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168 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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How long before we in Ireland do the same?

petemurphy

10,140 posts

185 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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of course a referendum would say no can u imagine asking the british public do you want to pay back umpteen million to some foreigners they would say no whatever the arguements?




davido140

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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petemurphy said:
of course a referendum would say no can u imagine asking the british public do you want to pay back umpteen million to some foreigners they would say no whatever the arguements?
To be fair it was a fairly high "yes" vote, 42%, so (IMO) a surprisingly high percentage of the population can see the big picture with regard to attracting investment in the future. Would imagine it would be a lot lower if the same happened over here!

The real Apache

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286 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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and Portugal?

Could someone explain to me, being a thickie, how the euro could ever have not ended up like this? it's like everyone in a factory had been told to join an exclusive club.....with a high membership fee and where you have to shop at the most expensive shops. Obviously the guys on the shop floor won't be able to afford it

davido140

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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just to clarify, this isnt the national debt of Iceland, it was money invested in savings accounts in an Icelandic bank, which went pop. (IceSave etc)

Defaulting on a national debt is a different story all together, I think if that was the case we are all allowed to go over there and pick a hot blonde to bring home and keep in the basement.



Edited by davido140 on Sunday 10th April 14:26

Eric Mc

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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The real Apache said:
and Portugal?

Could someone explain to me, being a thickie, how the euro could ever have not ended up like this? it's like everyone in a factory had been told to join an exclusive club.....with a high membership fee and where you have to shop at the most expensive shops. Obviously the guys on the shop floor won't be able to afford it
Iceland has nothing to do with the Euro. Indeed, it's not even in the EU.

Perhaps its willingness to default stems from the facty that it is pretty independent.

The real Apache

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286 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Eric Mc said:
The real Apache said:
and Portugal?

Could someone explain to me, being a thickie, how the euro could ever have not ended up like this? it's like everyone in a factory had been told to join an exclusive club.....with a high membership fee and where you have to shop at the most expensive shops. Obviously the guys on the shop floor won't be able to afford it
Iceland has nothing to do with the Euro. Indeed, it's not even in the EU.

Perhaps its willingness to default stems from the facty that it is pretty independent.
oops, senior moment there, still, that euro eh?

petemurphy

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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great how many 100's of millions will it take to sue them throught the courts. no win no fee anyone...

Eric Mc

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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Thom987 said:
How long before we in Ireland do the same?
If Ireland defaults, yuou could end up having the Wermacht marching their way down O'Connell Street.

rich1231

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262 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Iceland has nothing to do with the Euro. Indeed, it's not even in the EU.

Perhaps its willingness to default stems from the facty that it is pretty independent.
But it wants to join

Eric Mc

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267 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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rich1231 said:
Eric Mc said:
Iceland has nothing to do with the Euro. Indeed, it's not even in the EU.

Perhaps its willingness to default stems from the facty that it is pretty independent.
But it wants to join
It varies from day to day.

Fittster

20,120 posts

215 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Why should the Icelandic tax payers cover the debt of a bust commercial bank?

The real Apache

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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Fittster said:
Why should the Icelandic tax payers cover the debt of a bust commercial bank?
we did...didn't we?

Eric Mc

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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Fittster said:
Why should the Icelandic tax payers cover the debt of a bust commercial bank?
When governments guarantee that depositers will not lose their savings, taxpayers end up carrying the can when the bank goes under.

It happened in the UK and Ireland too. In Ireland, bank debt therefore transformed itself into national debt - hence the IMF and ECB bailout.

I'm not sure if Iceland qualifies for an ECB bailout (not being part of the EU) but I don't know what the ECB bailout criteria are.

Ash333

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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Wait til we start bombing Reykjavik. You'll be amazed how fast those funds get wired over.

Fittster

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Fittster said:
Why should the Icelandic tax payers cover the debt of a bust commercial bank?
When governments guarantee that depositers will not lose their savings, taxpayers end up carrying the can when the bank goes under.
And iceland made that guarantee?

On a wider note I fail to see why a government should guarantee funds in a commercial bank. You want protection, then off to national savings. You want higher returns, then take a risk.

Fittster

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Sunday 10th April 2011
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Ash333 said:
Wait til we start bombing Reykjavik. You'll be amazed how fast those funds get wired over.
Well we have already decided they are terrorists.

Thom987

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168 months

Sunday 10th April 2011
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Eric Mc said:
Thom987 said:
How long before we in Ireland do the same?
If Ireland defaults, yuou could end up having the Wermacht marching their way down O'Connell Street.
I think they would be welcomed by many in Ireland.