Help, I agree with Monbiot!

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caziques

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169 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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http://www.monbiot.com/2011/04/12/false-witness/

False Witness

Posted on April 12, 2011 by George

"Justice is impossible if we can’t trust the police to tell the truth."

"The problem appears systemic and widespread: we can’t trust the police to tell the truth."

"Justice is impossible if we cannot trust police forces to tell the truth. The remedy I’m about to propose should not be difficult for any government to adopt. It offers, I think, the only chance we have of addressing what seems to be an endemic problem: anyone who works for the police and is found to have made false statements – to the prosecution, the defence, the courts, parliament, public inquiries or the media – should be sacked. No excuses, no mitigation, no delays. It sounds harsh; it’s not nearly as harsh as a system in which the police malign both the living and the dead, and use the law against innocent people in order to protect themselves."

Hear, hear.


johnnyreggae

2,946 posts

161 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Wasn't Monbiot discredited by the whole climate change farrago ?

Digga

40,423 posts

284 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Even a stopped cock...

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

218 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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For once Moonbat is 100% correct, IMHO whilst some of the front line workers do a great job (and I certainly wouldn’t want to do it) there are a large percentage whose contribution to keeping public law and order is of a negative value to our society.

Gun

13,431 posts

219 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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A broken clock is right twice a day.

Elroy Blue

8,692 posts

193 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Hopefully they'll apply it to lawyers who lie through their teeth and members of the public who perjure themselves with impunity as well.

Jasandjules

70,009 posts

230 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Elroy Blue said:
Hopefully they'll apply it to lawyers who lie through their teeth and members of the public who perjure themselves with impunity as well.
Agreed.

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Jasandjules said:
Elroy Blue said:
Hopefully they'll apply it to lawyers who lie through their teeth and members of the public who perjure themselves with impunity as well.
Agreed.
And journalists.

heebeegeetee

28,893 posts

249 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Wednesday 20th April 2011
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Can you imagine the tribunals trying to prove that an officer was lying and not giving their view of a situation, however misunderstood it may be?

Busa_Rush

6,930 posts

252 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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tinman0 said:
Jasandjules said:
Elroy Blue said:
Hopefully they'll apply it to lawyers who lie through their teeth and members of the public who perjure themselves with impunity as well.
Agreed.
And journalists.
There would be an exemption for politicians . . . they appear to be incapable of knowing when they are telling the truth and when they are making it up to suit themselves . . .

Digga

40,423 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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EDLT said:
Can you imagine the tribunals trying to prove that an officer was lying and not giving their view of a situation, however misunderstood it may be?
Problem is with lying is that, if and when things (eventually) go to court, it costs the taxpayer a massive amount of dosh.

tone

291 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st April 2011
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Moonbat said:

Failing to provide sources, refuting data with anecdote, cherry-picking studies, scorning the scientific consensus, invoking a cover-up to explain it: all this is horribly familiar. These are the habits of climate change deniers, against which the green movement has struggled valiantly, calling science to its aid. It is distressing to discover that when the facts don’t suit them, members of this movement resort to the follies they have denounced.

Which also applies to those who believe in the religion of climate change. He's still a dipstick.