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Very. They wrote it off the accounts available to us, although some guess work was done with regards to the information still under lock and key. The death of Bambus and the Major were never established, so that was a guess, and the bit at the end was less entertaining in real life, i believe.
Either way, i love the film.
Either way, i love the film.
FraserLFA said:
Dr Jekyll said:
The conspiracy theory is rubbish though.
Really?There just might have been something of interest to the govt found in the boxes of course. But the idea of the govt being behind the raid or issuing D notices afterwards is way off.
A D-Notice was issued, but is merely a request, not an order. The D-Notice committee still has the request logged in their archives.
The idea of 5 or 6 being behind the Robbery is generally discounted, but never proved one way or another. The film was made around that idea to make it more interesting.
It is always possible, though. However, i agree that they'd need a good reason to hire some robbers instead of just walking in there themselves.
The idea of 5 or 6 being behind the Robbery is generally discounted, but never proved one way or another. The film was made around that idea to make it more interesting.
It is always possible, though. However, i agree that they'd need a good reason to hire some robbers instead of just walking in there themselves.
GTIR said:
Stathams London accent was quite rubbish.
Considering he's from London that's quite something!
Ok movie but Craig Fairbrass could have done Statham.
He's spent too long toning it down for the Americans. Still, it wasn't as bad as Danny Dyer's in that crap that was on afterwards.Considering he's from London that's quite something!
Ok movie but Craig Fairbrass could have done Statham.
EDLT said:
GTIR said:
Stathams London accent was quite rubbish.
Considering he's from London that's quite something!
Ok movie but Craig Fairbrass could have done Statham.
He's spent too long toning it down for the Americans. Still, it wasn't as bad as Danny Dyer's in that crap that was on afterwards.Considering he's from London that's quite something!
Ok movie but Craig Fairbrass could have done Statham.
If I had a choice of a night of drinking between Dyer and Statham it'd be Dyer. Besides, Statham would be going on about Kelly Brook all night and you can guarantee he'd be crying into his vodka by 23:30!
Didn't watch the one after. Had a danger w
k inbthe garden and then slept. GTIR said:
I only watched it from just before they had a Kip and bint sneaked in to the safe.
If I had a choice of a night of drinking between Dyer and Statham it'd be Dyer. Besides, Statham would be going on about Kelly Brook all night and you can guarantee he'd be crying into his vodka by 23:30!
Didn't watch the one after. Had a danger wk inbthe garden and then slept.
From what I've heard it's more likely you'd spend the night doing lines of coke.If I had a choice of a night of drinking between Dyer and Statham it'd be Dyer. Besides, Statham would be going on about Kelly Brook all night and you can guarantee he'd be crying into his vodka by 23:30!
Didn't watch the one after. Had a danger w
k inbthe garden and then slept. Although Wikipedia, I remember reading about this when the film was released.
Wikipedia said:
The film is in part based on historical facts. A gang tunnelled into a branch of Lloyds Bank at the junction of Baker Street and Marylebone Road, in London, on the night of 11 September 1971 and robbed the safe deposit boxes there. The robbers had rented a leather goods shop named Le Sac, two doors down from the bank, and tunnelled a distance of approximately 40 feet (12 metres), passing under the intervening Chicken Inn restaurant.
Robert Rowlands, a radio ham operator, overheard conversations between the robbers and their rooftop lookout. He contacted police and tape-recorded the conversations, which were subsequently made public. The film includes lines recorded by Rowlands, such as the lookout's comment that "Money may be your god, but it's not mine, and I'm fking off." After four days of news coverage, the British authorities supposedly issued a D-Notice, requesting that news coverage be discontinued for reasons of national security, however The Times was still reporting the case over two months later. Contrary to its portrayal in the film, a D-Notice cannot be legally enforced.
The film's producers claim that they have an inside source, identified in press reports as George McIndoe, who served as an executive producer. The film's claims that the issuance of the D-Notice was because a safe deposit box held sex pictures of Princess Margaret, and the possible connection to Michael X (whose governmental file purportedly is secret until 2054), are apparently based on information provided by McIndoe, though the basis and extent of his information are unclear. The film-makers apparently have acknowledged that they made up the character Martine, and The New Yorker is apparently right to conclude that it is "impossible to say how much of the film's story is true".
The fictitious character of Lew Vogel may in part allude to pornographer and racketeer Bernie Silver, a key figure in Soho in the 1960s and early 1970s, who was jailed in 1975 for the 1956 murder of Tommy "Scarface" Smithson; and also to later events surrounding his associate the real-life pornographer James Humphreys. After an outcry in 1972 when the Sunday People published photographs of the head of the Metropolitan Police Flying Squad, Commander Kenneth Drury, spending a luxurious two-week holiday with their wives with Humphreys in Cyprus, a police raid on Humphreys' house uncovered a wallsafe containing a diary cataloguing detailed itemised payments to seventeen different officers. Humphreys was jailed for eight years in 1974 for wounding his wife's former lover. He then turned Queen's Evidence, testifying against some of Scotland Yard's most senior officers in two major corruption trials in 1977; for which he received a Royal Pardon and was released from prison. In 1994 Humphreys was jailed for twelve months for living off the earnings of prostitutes.
The major political sex scandal of the period was the resignation of Lord Lambton in 1973. Again the circumstances were somewhat different to those shown in the film. Lambton resigned after a photograph was circulated around Fleet Street by the husband of one of two prostitutes he was shown in bed with, smoking marijuana; along with more photographs of other "prominent people". The prostitute, Norma Levy, did specialise in sado-masochism as a dominatrix, but remembers Lambton as being "relatively straight", and if anything more interested in the marijuana. She had been introduced to Lambton in July 1972 by upmarket madame Jean Horn. The affair was subsequently investigated by DCS Bert Wickstead of the Serious Crime Squad, who had also led the investigations into Silver and Humphreys. A confusion led to the additional resignation of another minister, Lord Jellicoe, although he had not been directly connected with Levy.
Part of the filming took place on location at the offices of Websters, 136 Baker Street where the rooftops were actually used for lookout purposes. The majority of outside shots, namely shots including the bank and adjacent shops, were done on a specially constructed set of Baker Street, to retain an authentic feel of the period and to allow for greater control of visible elements. This partial set was extended using VFX by the Australian company Iloura.
Robert Rowlands, a radio ham operator, overheard conversations between the robbers and their rooftop lookout. He contacted police and tape-recorded the conversations, which were subsequently made public. The film includes lines recorded by Rowlands, such as the lookout's comment that "Money may be your god, but it's not mine, and I'm f
king off." After four days of news coverage, the British authorities supposedly issued a D-Notice, requesting that news coverage be discontinued for reasons of national security, however The Times was still reporting the case over two months later. Contrary to its portrayal in the film, a D-Notice cannot be legally enforced.The film's producers claim that they have an inside source, identified in press reports as George McIndoe, who served as an executive producer. The film's claims that the issuance of the D-Notice was because a safe deposit box held sex pictures of Princess Margaret, and the possible connection to Michael X (whose governmental file purportedly is secret until 2054), are apparently based on information provided by McIndoe, though the basis and extent of his information are unclear. The film-makers apparently have acknowledged that they made up the character Martine, and The New Yorker is apparently right to conclude that it is "impossible to say how much of the film's story is true".
The fictitious character of Lew Vogel may in part allude to pornographer and racketeer Bernie Silver, a key figure in Soho in the 1960s and early 1970s, who was jailed in 1975 for the 1956 murder of Tommy "Scarface" Smithson; and also to later events surrounding his associate the real-life pornographer James Humphreys. After an outcry in 1972 when the Sunday People published photographs of the head of the Metropolitan Police Flying Squad, Commander Kenneth Drury, spending a luxurious two-week holiday with their wives with Humphreys in Cyprus, a police raid on Humphreys' house uncovered a wallsafe containing a diary cataloguing detailed itemised payments to seventeen different officers. Humphreys was jailed for eight years in 1974 for wounding his wife's former lover. He then turned Queen's Evidence, testifying against some of Scotland Yard's most senior officers in two major corruption trials in 1977; for which he received a Royal Pardon and was released from prison. In 1994 Humphreys was jailed for twelve months for living off the earnings of prostitutes.
The major political sex scandal of the period was the resignation of Lord Lambton in 1973. Again the circumstances were somewhat different to those shown in the film. Lambton resigned after a photograph was circulated around Fleet Street by the husband of one of two prostitutes he was shown in bed with, smoking marijuana; along with more photographs of other "prominent people". The prostitute, Norma Levy, did specialise in sado-masochism as a dominatrix, but remembers Lambton as being "relatively straight", and if anything more interested in the marijuana. She had been introduced to Lambton in July 1972 by upmarket madame Jean Horn. The affair was subsequently investigated by DCS Bert Wickstead of the Serious Crime Squad, who had also led the investigations into Silver and Humphreys. A confusion led to the additional resignation of another minister, Lord Jellicoe, although he had not been directly connected with Levy.
Part of the filming took place on location at the offices of Websters, 136 Baker Street where the rooftops were actually used for lookout purposes. The majority of outside shots, namely shots including the bank and adjacent shops, were done on a specially constructed set of Baker Street, to retain an authentic feel of the period and to allow for greater control of visible elements. This partial set was extended using VFX by the Australian company Iloura.
Oakey said:
GTIR said:
I only watched it from just before they had a Kip and bint sneaked in to the safe.
If I had a choice of a night of drinking between Dyer and Statham it'd be Dyer. Besides, Statham would be going on about Kelly Brook all night and you can guarantee he'd be crying into his vodka by 23:30!
Didn't watch the one after. Had a danger wk inbthe garden and then slept.
From what I've heard it's more likely you'd spend the night doing lines of coke.If I had a choice of a night of drinking between Dyer and Statham it'd be Dyer. Besides, Statham would be going on about Kelly Brook all night and you can guarantee he'd be crying into his vodka by 23:30!
Didn't watch the one after. Had a danger w
k inbthe garden and then slept. Group N said:
GTIR said:
Ok movie but Craig Fairbrass could have done Statham.
Him offa Right Said Fred? I never saw him in it, or Jagger. Where was Jagger?Craig, not Richard!
(they are brothers though) >cough<
ajprice said:
Really liked this lastnight. Nice to see the 70s cars, even potato face from Outcasts didn't put a downer on it.
Made the same mistake they always make with 'period' cars though - they all looked like they were owned by people from the detailing forum. It spoils it for me when every car, including workmans tranny vans shine like a Bentley being delivered to it's first owner. It would be far more realistic if they were occassionally dirty with the odd dent.Gassing Station | TV, Film, Video Streaming & Radio | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff