Fighting a speeding ticket?
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I've just received my first NIP for 40mph in a 30 zone. I drove past the same camera today and almost sped past it again!
Bit of background. The road in in Newcastle, don't know the name (think it's Great North Rd?), but it has the town moor on the left and comes up to the Bluehouse roundabout. It's the camera just after the roundabout if anyone knows it. It was my first day working in a new building and the first time I'd driven on that road.
Thing is, the road heading up to the Bluehouse roundabout has a 50mph limit. I go straight over the roundabout and there are no speed limit signs on the exit of the roundabout. So I carried on assuming 50. Then a few hundred yards up the road there are 30mph signs painted on the road, but no actual signposts. These floor paintings are about 15 yards before the camera. Now from driving at 50, with cars ahead covering the signs on the ground and having no signposts, I think it's unreasonable to expect me to slow down for that camera.
Are there any rules about signage before a camera (there are camera sign posts, but not limit ones)? Is there any point in arguing with ticket?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I've managed to keep a clean licence so far and am annoyed about the circumstances. Had I been caught having a hoon, then it would be a fair cop and I'd take it like a man, but I feel conned.
>>> Edited by uriel on Wednesday 14th July 10:53
Bit of background. The road in in Newcastle, don't know the name (think it's Great North Rd?), but it has the town moor on the left and comes up to the Bluehouse roundabout. It's the camera just after the roundabout if anyone knows it. It was my first day working in a new building and the first time I'd driven on that road.
Thing is, the road heading up to the Bluehouse roundabout has a 50mph limit. I go straight over the roundabout and there are no speed limit signs on the exit of the roundabout. So I carried on assuming 50. Then a few hundred yards up the road there are 30mph signs painted on the road, but no actual signposts. These floor paintings are about 15 yards before the camera. Now from driving at 50, with cars ahead covering the signs on the ground and having no signposts, I think it's unreasonable to expect me to slow down for that camera.
Are there any rules about signage before a camera (there are camera sign posts, but not limit ones)? Is there any point in arguing with ticket?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as I've managed to keep a clean licence so far and am annoyed about the circumstances. Had I been caught having a hoon, then it would be a fair cop and I'd take it like a man, but I feel conned.
>>> Edited by uriel on Wednesday 14th July 10:53
Dwight VanDriver said:
If its the piece of road I am visualising then the signs are there (before the Roundabout) so do a very careful check with a friend to back you up if missing.
Pixs, pixs, as white 30 on road doesnt cover the down restiction to 30. Should be metal signs. None present illegal limit.
DVD
I just checked on the way home and yes, I'm an idiot, there are signs. But to be fair, they are covered with trees on both sides of the road. As is the camera
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