questions regarding NIPI

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red997

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210 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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I'll try and keep this simple;
BMW compact in mrs name, MOT expired.
Car not required any more - add placed on eBay 31st July
Contacted by interested party on 1st August - he is local & wants to view
interested party comes to look at car (at my house)
I explicitly state that it has no MOT (it's been garaged out of use for a couple of months)
Offers me a sum slightly below BIN price on eBay
We accept terms - he gives me cash, fills in V5C with his details(Trader), and says he will come back in 2 hours with driver and trade plate to collect the car
I move the car off my drive.
He pics up car as advised.
I send V5C off to DLVA
on the 7th August I receive a NIP (bedfordshire 65 in 50)
I send back NIP with new keepers details filled in
Yesterday (17/09) I receive the NIP back stating that the person of the details I gave them is denying owning the car on the date of the offence, and that they require proof of who owned the car on the date of the offence.
Now, the DVLA slip that the previous keeper gets back does not state the date that the car was sold / transferred.
I have emailed the buyer, asking him to confirm his details, who states - I quote -
HI,I SOLD IT AND POSTED THE V5 OFF TO DVLA.THERE WAS TO MUCH WORK TO GET THROUGH FOR AN MOT WHITCH YOU KNEW ABOUT HAVING HAD IT TESTED,NOT LETTING ON IN YOUR ADVERT OR TELLING ME.THE DVLA HAS THE NEW KEEPERS RECORDS.
I can prove that me & the Mrs were no where near Bedfordshire at the time of the offence - we were in fact in Essex and have time & geotagged photos to back it up.

Advice on how to proceed ?
I have 6 days to respond to camera enforcers.

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red997

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1,304 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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receipt doesn't have his signature on it, only the trader details that I've already sent to camera enforcement;
anyone know if DVLA can produce anything that shows actual date of change of ownership?
(I can't call them today)

red997

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210 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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thanks for all the responses;
backs up what I was hoping was true;
I could spend £2.50 with the DVLA for release of information;
or I could just push it all back the the Scamera department...
hmmm what to do... ;-)

red997

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210 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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Red Devil
thanks
yes I did return the yellow slip promptly.
And cancelled the insurance.

I have done all I could.

I have just written a letter (on behalf of my wife who is currently at work)to the NoIP office, stating that She wasn't the driver, we can prove this, that the DVLA were notified of change of keeper, and that I suggest they contact the DVLA to pursue this further.
David

red997

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1,304 posts

210 months

Thursday 18th September 2014
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who knows
the email I got from the buyer suggests he thought that there was too much work to undertake, so sold it on.
I suspect that this is why he is not owning up to being the driver of the car at the time of the offence - my suspicion is that the car would have had no MOT.
it could however have been on trade plates - I did sell it to a motor trader

red997

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210 months

Friday 19th September 2014
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I've written back to the scamera company saying basically do one - I'm not responsible ; contact DVLA.

Unfortunately I don't have a copy of the v5c - wish I did !
however, I'm confident in the dates, and coupled with the fact that I can prove we were in a different county that day, I have no worries.

I agree - yes it would be so much easier if the purchaser form me would have put his buyer on the NoIP - but that would have been the honest thing to do...