Would it have been right to run him over?
Discussion
Hi,
Long time lurker, first time poster.
I had an incident a few weeks ago which has divided opinion of my friends, family and co-workers so I thought I'd share it here.
I was driving with the wife and had the 18 month old in the back too. On the road someone pulls out from a junction in front of me, I had to lift off but not brake, not a big deal I thought. Then someone follows him out the junction causing me "slam the anchors on" narrowly avoiding a collision.
So to express my feeling I flashed my lights and made (what I considered to be appropriate) hand gesture, letting him know just what I thought of him. He then proceed to pull off the road (immediately) and try to get out and have a fight about it. (by the time he started to open his door I was off).
This got me thinking about when (if at all) I could have essentially used my car as a weapon to defeat said foe? (by defeat I basically mean run him over to get away)
What if he got out before I got away? and started charging back up the road towards my car! What if he got out with a weapon (large spanner or something)? What if he blocked me in? (I would have hit him but would the fuzz have thrown the book at me?)
I understand there are a lot of what if's and buts regarding these type of situations but I appreciate you time in reading this and responding
Thanks
P.S. I'm 6'2", 17 stone and did kung fu (hard core kung fu!) for 4 years so "toe to toe" I feel I could have taken him but that's not the point, I don't what to fight... I'm happy with just running away... but is it ok to run away in a car if that car has to drive over the top of the "bad guy" to get away?
Long time lurker, first time poster.
I had an incident a few weeks ago which has divided opinion of my friends, family and co-workers so I thought I'd share it here.
I was driving with the wife and had the 18 month old in the back too. On the road someone pulls out from a junction in front of me, I had to lift off but not brake, not a big deal I thought. Then someone follows him out the junction causing me "slam the anchors on" narrowly avoiding a collision.
So to express my feeling I flashed my lights and made (what I considered to be appropriate) hand gesture, letting him know just what I thought of him. He then proceed to pull off the road (immediately) and try to get out and have a fight about it. (by the time he started to open his door I was off).
This got me thinking about when (if at all) I could have essentially used my car as a weapon to defeat said foe? (by defeat I basically mean run him over to get away)
What if he got out before I got away? and started charging back up the road towards my car! What if he got out with a weapon (large spanner or something)? What if he blocked me in? (I would have hit him but would the fuzz have thrown the book at me?)
I understand there are a lot of what if's and buts regarding these type of situations but I appreciate you time in reading this and responding
Thanks
P.S. I'm 6'2", 17 stone and did kung fu (hard core kung fu!) for 4 years so "toe to toe" I feel I could have taken him but that's not the point, I don't what to fight... I'm happy with just running away... but is it ok to run away in a car if that car has to drive over the top of the "bad guy" to get away?
La Liga said:
A collision with him when your intention is to get away is different from deliberately running him over. The latter will require a greater threat and greater justification given the likely injury outcomes.
A lot also depends on how you felt and what threat you perceived, but any force needs to be reasonable in the circumstances.
I like this answer best but thanks to all who took the time to.A lot also depends on how you felt and what threat you perceived, but any force needs to be reasonable in the circumstances.
I don't own a company or have any facial hair so despite the hardcore kung fu training getting away is my preferred option
ruggedscotty said:
want to run him over..... well for a start take the keys off of you - as you are not fit to be in charge of any vehicle.
This day and age we all have a social responsibility - yes that cretin that pulled out took a liberty - thats the state of roads today - if you want to start a fight or engage in a fight then so be it....
Id be considering anger management courses - ;-)
I wanted to get away, (I had my 18 month old in car) but if it's a choice between putting my family in danger and maybe even killing someone... IF the threat was big enough then ... splat... bye bye This day and age we all have a social responsibility - yes that cretin that pulled out took a liberty - thats the state of roads today - if you want to start a fight or engage in a fight then so be it....
Id be considering anger management courses - ;-)
- not that I'm saying by pulling out nearly causing a collision warrants the death penalty but if you try to start a fight with someone in a car and they drive away and run over your foot then though, it would be your own stupid fault
ferrariF50lover said:
... lts of stuff ...
steady on, there's no way my car could do anywhere near 150!as I said earlier "if you try to start a fight with someone in a car and they drive away and run over your foot then though, it would be your own stupid fault"
LoonR1 said:
Maybe start the whole process by not giving someone the * sign and you'd be amazed how these things don't escalate.
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