Yellow Box Junction Cameras

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These are becoming another 'cash cow' for local authorities.

Worth watching BBC London 'Inside Out' at 7:30 this evening.

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Sometimes in very busy cities it can be almost impossible to cross the yellow box legally.

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C70R said:

bad company said:

Sometimes in very busy cities it can be almost impossible to cross the yellow box legally.

Really? A decade of living in London here, and I've never once been caught out... It's fairly transparent and straightforward.

Ken Figenus won't agree. See his post above.

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Ken Figenus said:

I certainly wont as I too am very clever enough to know how they work and never had any issues before, but someone blasting past you nearside from a bus lane that was active... The video didn't show this as the undertake after the green was quite out of frame. Its a terrible layout and its quite famous for raking it in like many London box junctions. But I'm sure it was my utter maverick non-conformist incompetence to blame!

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but perhaps you should have challenged the fine based on what you say. I had a success at the tribunal earlier this year although it was not yellow box related. The tribunal is not intimidating and all seemed very fair IMO.

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KevinCamaroSS said:

C70R said:

Which car needs 30ft of space?

One with a trailer such as a boat or caravan.

Blimey, I hadn't thought of that. How on earth does somebody towing cope with one of those box junctions.

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C70R said:

bad company said:

KevinCamaroSS said:

C70R said:

Which car needs 30ft of space?

One with a trailer such as a boat or caravan.

Blimey, I hadn't thought of that. How on earth does somebody towing cope with one of those box junctions.

By avoiding heavily-congested, urban areas at peak times. As anyone with any common sense would do...

Yes that would be sensible but not always possible. Surely it should always be possible to drive across one of these junctions safely and legally?

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Terminator X said:

Loads of them already posted above your post eg box junction on a T junction so cars come on to the main road whilst you're waiting for a gap to appear on the other side. If you waited until clear, as another poster says, a few hours will have passed and the rush hour will be over. By then of course you'd have been killed by all the drivers in the queue behind you.

As demonstrated by the lady trying to get across the junction in Enfield on 'Inside Out' this week.

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C70R said:

And I'm saying that 99.99% of box junctions are no problem (I accept that one on the corner), unless you're towing a boat through an urban area at peak time.
Patience and assertive driving are all that is required - this is coming from someone who lives and drives in a city full of these things.

Surely if they are such a menace, there should be hundreds of easily-sourced examples where they place the driver in an "impossible" position.

So take a look at this lady trying to legally cross a box junction in Enfield and tell us what she was doing wrong please:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07xrvgd/insi...

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herewego said:

bad company said:

C70R said:

And I'm saying that 99.99% of box junctions are no problem (I accept that one on the corner), unless you're towing a boat through an urban area at peak time.
Patience and assertive driving are all that is required - this is coming from someone who lives and drives in a city full of these things.

Surely if they are such a menace, there should be hundreds of easily-sourced examples where they place the driver in an "impossible" position.

So take a look at this lady trying to legally cross a box junction in Enfield and tell us what she was doing wrong please:-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b07xrvgd/insi...

She did the right thing at the end, she took a different route. Isn't that what we all do everyday, work out the best route in our heads.

She was forced to take the wrong road for her. Are you seriously saying that's OK?

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Vipers said:

Up the junction was a good film..........



Whoops....... wrong thread

Never mind.

Nice picture.

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C70R said:

bad company said:

Sometimes in very busy cities it can be almost impossible to cross the yellow box legally.

Really? A decade of living in London here, and I've never once been caught out... It's fairly transparent and straightforward.

As several others have pointed out and demonstrated on Inside Out, there are such junctions particularly in London which are very difficult to cross legally in a car never mind a truck or trailer. You must be a brilliant driver or very lucky to have never had a problem.

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Cliftonite said:

Dick Dastardly said:

That's the plan. Wanted to know if others had any success here or if I'm wasting time.

PePiPoo is your friend?

Agree 100%. I fought my No Entry case and won which was very satisfying . The councils are playing a numbers game rightly assuming that most will pay. Check on Pepipoo and if you have a decent case (sounds like you do) challenge.