New Bands for Speeding in UK
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Hi guys....I can't believe there hasn't already been a thread on this subject. I had an admittedly sparse search without luck. So, is this just for cases that get court hearings, with Fixed Penalties still applied in majority of cases? Or will the fixed penalties also be graded according to how fast you were going as well?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/776062/Speeding-d...
Jezzaaa.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/776062/Speeding-d...
Jezzaaa.
zygalski said:
It's outrageous that the fines should be based on a % of weekly income. This will be a meaningful way to punish people who like to speed
There's speeding and speeding isn't there; 95mph on a motorway vs 55mph in a 30mph are clearly different levels of risk etc. And once again this is just an arbitrary penalty based on speed. I seem to remember reading something somewhere which gave me some hope, but I can't remember where. It might have been a comment on an article covering this story. It said that this has been ridiculously over reported without the context that it's only relevant where it goes to court. It said these were sentencing guidelines and didn't replace the fixed penalty scheme, which would still be employed. Previously, up to a certain point (I think it was up to 25mph over the limit) you'd get 3 points and £100 fine fixed penalty. And only after that would you be getting a summons.
My question is, have they given bobbies/camera partnerships different bands of fixed penalties? Or will the £100 3 point fixed penalty remain?
jezzaaa said:
I can't believe there hasn't already been a thread on this subject.
There's been plenty of threads and comment about this.Example: agtlaw in January said:
In force: 24th April 2017.
The maximum fine will not be increased. £2500 for a motorway. £1000 for any other road.
The guideline is changing for the highest category of speed. Interestingly, the new guideline is applicable to offenders irrespective of plea or previous convictions.
http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/...
Also note that this is expressly put in the new guideline:
"Where an offender is driving grossly in excess of the speed limit the court should consider a disqualification in excess of 56 days."
That's not a change per se, but interesting that they've decided it should be included.
To confirm, Fixed Penalties are not changing - they'll still be 3 points & £100.The maximum fine will not be increased. £2500 for a motorway. £1000 for any other road.
The guideline is changing for the highest category of speed. Interestingly, the new guideline is applicable to offenders irrespective of plea or previous convictions.
http://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/item/...
Also note that this is expressly put in the new guideline:
"Where an offender is driving grossly in excess of the speed limit the court should consider a disqualification in excess of 56 days."
That's not a change per se, but interesting that they've decided it should be included.
Chris_H said:
I'm interested to know how I'd be fined. I'm retired but not old enough for a pension. I have no income but live off my savings. What will they do if I was caught speeding?
Is your bookcase also rather larger than your TV?if so, expect to be burnt at the stake, and your belongings distributed to the poor (people with TVs larger than their bookcase; or even yours.)
Pour encourager les autres, obvs.
Not fair at all. Surprised when I saw these. I thought there had to be an allowance for speedo correction. But these don't have anything. Do 21 in a 20 and you're done for.
I also think it's hilarious that if you're a government scrounger without a job you get less of a fine compared to a hard working person with a job.
Got to love England.
I also think it's hilarious that if you're a government scrounger without a job you get less of a fine compared to a hard working person with a job.
Got to love England.
Chris_H said:
I'm interested to know how I'd be fined. I'm retired but not old enough for a pension. I have no income but live off my savings. What will they do if I was caught speeding?
They base it on a minimum amount. It was £100/week I think - but may have changed but don't really know now. They also don't check. If you were driving a Ferrari and claimed £100/week they might raise eyebrows. But for most folk you can safely put as little as you want with no real stress. Technically you might be committing an offence - but there are lot's of loopholes so I can't see them ever going after it.
photosnob said:
Chris_H said:
I'm interested to know how I'd be fined. I'm retired but not old enough for a pension. I have no income but live off my savings. What will they do if I was caught speeding?
They base it on a minimum amount. It was £100/week I think - but may have changed but don't really know now. They also don't check. If you were driving a Ferrari and claimed £100/week they might raise eyebrows. But for most folk you can safely put as little as you want with no real stress. Technically you might be committing an offence - but there are lot's of loopholes so I can't see them ever going after it.
Chris_H said:
I assume they'll do spot checks otherwise it would be a nonsense? If you take dividends from your own limited company, that would probably be regarded as income. However, if you just own other shares in other public companies, I don't think it could be.
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