PCN for Stopping on Restricted Bus Stop for Zero Seconds

PCN for Stopping on Restricted Bus Stop for Zero Seconds

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Glassman

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Saturday 22nd April 2017
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Barnet Council PCN (to the wife) alleging a contravention: 'Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand'.

"The PCN is being served because the Civil Enforcement Officer [XYZ] observed the vehicle identified above from 16:31 to 16:31 and had begun to prepare a PCN but the vehicle was driven away from the place where it was stationary before the CEO had finished preparing it and was unable to serve it by affixing it to the vehicle or giving it to the person appearing to be in charge of it".

¿Que?

Glassman

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Saturday 22nd April 2017
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TheGroover said:
Applying Occams razor, your misses stopped somewhere she shouldn't, clocked a warden and drove off before they could issue a ticket.
There might have been an old lady crossing the road... or a pigeon was eating out of a discarded KFC box.... or the car could have stalled... or the 'CEO' didn't actually 'see' anything.

Glassman

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Saturday 22nd April 2017
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Well, did she stop or not?
Haven't asked her about the letter yet (she's out shopping) but the council would have to prove it, no?

Glassman

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Wednesday 26th April 2017
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daveinhampshire said:
The offence is:

"Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand"

At no point does it say parked, clearly there is no time element as stopping is an instant process hence the time element being the same minute. You will fail trying to discredit the officer concerned, their word is good enough and as you're suggesting earlier the driver(s) can not recollect their movements at the time is going to be far more credible.

Pay the fine, move on.
Can the officer prove it? How do we know he has the right car, or that it was stopped? I can't see how they can go slapping fines on allegations they have no proof of.

Glassman

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Thursday 27th April 2017
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48k said:
Has the OP confirmed that his wife had not stopped as alleged?
We both use the car; the bus stop is on the route home (from school/her work/local shops etc).

Glassman

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Thursday 27th April 2017
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Says he/she hadn't finished writing the ticket, and therefore could not affix or serve it??

Glassman

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Thursday 27th April 2017
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Type R Tom said:
I thought you were questioning if it even happened and therefore wanted (possibly) photographic evidence?
I am. Well, *she* is.

Glassman

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Thursday 27th April 2017
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Just been on the Barnet website and now that there are images, CLEAR IMAGES, my darling wife has suddenly remembered that she stopped to "run in and get something" from the shop.

She sent me into battle... I despair.

Thanks for your comments.

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