New laws surrounding speeding in France?

New laws surrounding speeding in France?

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Joe5y

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As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.

As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?

Joe5y

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Riley Blue said:
So how does that help with info on the new 2017 laws?

Joe5y

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heebeegeetee said:
Don't discount the usual fining on the spot and the fines can be high.

Can't help with camera penalties, but also don't discount the issue being flagged up when the vehicle next returns to the continent.
Always thought that re the car returning but how does that work once the car has been sold or has a plate change?

Joe5y

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agtlaw said:
Order66 said:
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.

As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
IANAL and IMO and all that, but my understanding is this. They can sell the "debt" to debt collection agencies. However these agencies have no real power to make you pay - they will rely on threatening letters,intimidation (and outright lies regarding their powers) to try and get you to pay but at the end of the day they are powerless.

As for the thought of your car being stopped on subsequent re-entries to the country I don't believe there is any country where this is legal (it certainly isn't part of EU regulations) and there is nowhere they have joined up systems or processes to make this happen. I think worst case is the lots of threatening letters/debt collectors as above.
Completely wrong. It's enforced by your local Magistrates' Court.
So our justice system has to go to the expense of doing another countries job?

Joe5y

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Alucidnation said:
Joe5y said:
As with many I'm off to Le Mans this week. I'm not one for doing silly speeds but do often drift higher than the 130kph limit.

As of May new laws mean that UK licenced cars / drivers can be fined. But how? I'll get a letter through the post, I'll bin it, then what? How will it be followed up?
How do you manage, driving in the UK?
Very well, thank you.

I'm sure I'm not the only one that when in europe I don't worry if a camera flashes. With the new laws I'm curious as to how they're enforced.

Joe5y

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Riley Blue said:
Joe5y said:
Riley Blue said:
So how does that help with info on the new 2017 laws?
They're the same 'new' laws, it's taken a few years for them to be drawn up and implemented.

http://etsc.eu/faq-eu-cross-border-enforcement-dir...
"A few" being 9 years.

Your initial post wasn't clear. Thank you for the clarification, I will read the link.

Joe5y

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So, the first I will hear about it is when the UK magistrates contact me to say I have an outstanding fine to pay from a speeding offence in France?!

What if you want to fight it?
What if you ignore it?
What if you deny it was you? (Do the same responsibilities apply?)
Etc etc etc

Joe5y

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Flashed once on the way from Rouen to Le Mans over one of the 2 bridges with reduced speeds. Nothing from Mr Froggy Police.