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About a month ago I parked on single yellow lines.
However highway code states that signs must display specific times. On this road there was no signs. (am i right here?)
they replied to my appeal and they said they will not cancel. All the letter says
1. 'PCN for parking on a single yellow line at a time you were not allowed' (there were no times shown anywhere on the street)
2. single yellow lines mean no parking except to load and unload. (no it doesnt, there is a different sign and road marking for this https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/560...
3. they say there were 'controlled zone signs' however on the specific street there was no signs at both ends?
However highway code states that signs must display specific times. On this road there was no signs. (am i right here?)
they replied to my appeal and they said they will not cancel. All the letter says
1. 'PCN for parking on a single yellow line at a time you were not allowed' (there were no times shown anywhere on the street)
2. single yellow lines mean no parking except to load and unload. (no it doesnt, there is a different sign and road marking for this https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/560...
3. they say there were 'controlled zone signs' however on the specific street there was no signs at both ends?
kiethton said:
Controlled zone doesn't have to be on the street itself, it can be within a whole wider zone (I found this out in Bromley Town Centre a few years back)
I didnt pass a sign, just has a look on google street view to check my route. From the main road to the street - no controlled zone sign, then form the street to the side road, no controlled zone sign. (street view is quite funny, as there are loads of cars parked on the yellow line).
S11Steve said:
Was in Manchester by any chance?
I recently had a load of tickets to deal with after a Take That concert that were issued under the Manchester Controlled Parking Zone Order (2005) which covers entire streets in the vicinity of the football and cricket grounds at certain times when major events are underway.
The signage is very different that that outlined in the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions.
which heading of that link should I look in? I recently had a load of tickets to deal with after a Take That concert that were issued under the Manchester Controlled Parking Zone Order (2005) which covers entire streets in the vicinity of the football and cricket grounds at certain times when major events are underway.
The signage is very different that that outlined in the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions.
and no leeds, so close.
I didnt see the CPZ sign on the route I took.
Its funny have other streets a stone throw away have time signs
speedking31 said:
Manchester and Southampton have CPZs with signs on (some) entry roads at the perimeter. There have been several threads about this. Miss the sign or enter via a back road and you don't know what the restrictions are.
I came off a main road. Southampton Council said:
The City Centre Pay and Display Zone operates Monday to Saturday 8am to 8pm, and Sundays and Bank Holidays, 1pm to 6pm. These times also apply to all single yellow line No Waiting restrictions within the City Centre Pay and Display Zone unless otherwise stated by the on-street signing.
so this means I have to pay?
S11Steve said:
This is the currently the definitive case on CPZ signage, and includes all the relevant parts of the TSRGD that cover it - http://www.davidmarq.com/bama/Cukier-v-Barnet.doc
It's possible that it could be argued further an in more depth, but with Local Authority tickets being £35 at the discounted rate, many, myself included prefer to pay it and make it go away.
i dont feel like paying for something knowing full well I may be able to successfully appealIt's possible that it could be argued further an in more depth, but with Local Authority tickets being £35 at the discounted rate, many, myself included prefer to pay it and make it go away.
Pip1968 said:
I had this in Fulham, London. They gave me a ticket AND towed me away £260 in all to get the car back. Appealed through both their systems as the paperwork says they have to allow 30 mins before towing but they replied on the appeal "Oh that is just a guidline". I am still considering a small claims court.
It was a year or so ago and within one of their bullsh#t 'Controlled Zones' and a single yellow after 1800/1900. It is a farce. How you are supposed to know if you are still in a zone even if you spot the sign when you drive into it. You could easily miss the sign on the way out and a single yellow that was not blocking anyone in.
Right up there next to the scamera vans. Just revenue generation. How much does it cost to mark a single yellow with a sign - ???
Pip
its really funny, every road in the area has a yellow line, with a sign all differing timesIt was a year or so ago and within one of their bullsh#t 'Controlled Zones' and a single yellow after 1800/1900. It is a farce. How you are supposed to know if you are still in a zone even if you spot the sign when you drive into it. You could easily miss the sign on the way out and a single yellow that was not blocking anyone in.
Right up there next to the scamera vans. Just revenue generation. How much does it cost to mark a single yellow with a sign - ???
Pip
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