PtCoJ not as serious as it once was?
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http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/153746...
A youth has been caught by a speed camera located on my route from work to home, travelling at a speed number usually reserved by trombones in big parades... SIX MPH over the motorway limit, in a 40 MPH area.
He then contacted police and reported his number plates stolen, and claimed that the car in the picture of the offence was not his.
At 19 he will not have held his license for two years, so 6 points could have seen him banned - he was given 5 points.
His PtCoJ could have earned him 4 months in jail, like Chris Hune - but instead, his 16 week jail sentence was suspended.
I wonder if the "Safety" camera operated by the Cumbria Safety Camera Partnership is operating correctly.
76 mph doesn't seem safe, given one former KSI involved a pedestrian lying down in the road, and the driver in this instance was not stopped or detained from travelling on at any speed he chose.
His only penalty appears to be 150 hours of unpaid [community] work... but how is he to learn the error of his ways if he doesn't sit a retest or a speed awareness course?
I know of lots of people who do community work... councillors, first responders, etc, who have not committed any offences. It is hardly a punishment!
A youth has been caught by a speed camera located on my route from work to home, travelling at a speed number usually reserved by trombones in big parades... SIX MPH over the motorway limit, in a 40 MPH area.
He then contacted police and reported his number plates stolen, and claimed that the car in the picture of the offence was not his.
At 19 he will not have held his license for two years, so 6 points could have seen him banned - he was given 5 points.
His PtCoJ could have earned him 4 months in jail, like Chris Hune - but instead, his 16 week jail sentence was suspended.
I wonder if the "Safety" camera operated by the Cumbria Safety Camera Partnership is operating correctly.
76 mph doesn't seem safe, given one former KSI involved a pedestrian lying down in the road, and the driver in this instance was not stopped or detained from travelling on at any speed he chose.
His only penalty appears to be 150 hours of unpaid [community] work... but how is he to learn the error of his ways if he doesn't sit a retest or a speed awareness course?
I know of lots of people who do community work... councillors, first responders, etc, who have not committed any offences. It is hardly a punishment!
I didn't realise there were varying degrees of PtCoJ... I thought you either had committed it or you hadn't.
Don't let the StreetView fool you - the pub and filling station on one side of the road, and stables and a caravan site on the other, with the road crossing between the north and southbound cameras has led to incidents in the past. Not that it needs a speed camera to fix the problems... they actually made things worse... and they don't catch all the speeders!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXrcjRi3zqY
Don't let the StreetView fool you - the pub and filling station on one side of the road, and stables and a caravan site on the other, with the road crossing between the north and southbound cameras has led to incidents in the past. Not that it needs a speed camera to fix the problems... they actually made things worse... and they don't catch all the speeders!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXrcjRi3zqY
agtlaw said:
Mill Wheel said:
PtCoJ not as serious as it once was?
2014 stats (latest I could find quickly) for perverting the course of public justice. Male offender age 18-20 pleading guilty.Discharge - 2%
Fine - 0
Community sentence - 18%
Suspended sentence - 46%
Immediate custody - 34%
Looks like the most common outcome. What's your point?
I think 76 mph through Ings qualifies for the 150% of the weekly wage, without the PtCoJ on top.
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