Pub Next Door - Noisy Bouncy Castle

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I posted on here some time ago when the pub next door had regular live music which was unbearable. Since then it's changed hands several times. The current licensee has put up a bouncy castle to attract families, fair enough. The trouble for me is that the castle goes up every day and the fan while not excessively noisy creates a constant humming sound. This prevents me from enjoying sitting in my own garden.

I haven't spoken with the pub management yet as I wanted to know what the rules (if any) are before I do so.

Anybody have any experience or know the laws about this?

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mike74 said:

Did you not consider that noise would possibly be an issue and quiet enjoyment of your garden would be highly unlikely when buying your house next to a pub?

Re the bouncy castle I do know someone who has a bouncy castle at their smallish tourist attraction and the local council have told them it has to be supervised by a member of staff at ALL times.

Edited by mike74 on Sunday 23 July 17:06

Yes, of course I have accept some noise from a pub garden. My point here is that the sound is constant, all day every day. No need for a noise diary I would say.

I expect the rules regarding supervision vary from council to council.

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Phil Dicky said:

Buy a house next to a pub, then moan about noise from said pub...ffs

I've been here for 20 years. The pub was a boozer when I moved in, of course there was some noise but it was not too intrusive.

As I said the problem now is that the fan / blower for the castle is running all day every day.

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Du1point8 said:

not knowing much about the way they work, cant it be mostly enclosed in a box to reduce noise or ask them to reposition it?

Or is that just too easy?

Yes that could be a possibility. I need to speak with the publican but just wanted to get some pointers before I do.

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Thanks for the help guys. I just took a look and see that the generator is in encased in a wooden box fixed to the joint wall between our properties. No wonder it's noisey on our side. Surely that must cost a lot of £'s to keep running all day?

Perhaps the best way is to talk the publcan nicely and see if the generator could be moved.

Otherwise I guess it's a call to the local council environmental department but I would prefer not to do that at this stage. I do wonder if the pub is really allowed a castle running 7 days a week tho.

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4Q said:

In other news, a guy who moved next to a dairy farm is complaining that he can smell cow st

Edited by 4Q on Sunday 23 July 23:08

Or a guy who had fk all useful to add to a thread decided to quote bullst.

Seriously I'm not complaining about normal pub noise or the kids playing in the garden. This is a constant sound all day everyday.

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BelfastBlack said:

The specific guidance the pub need to operate to is BS 4142: Methods for rating and assessing industrial and commercial sound. This deals with plant noise impacting on residential receptors and quantifies the likelihood of compliant due to plant noise.

If the council deem it so, the pub would need to pay for an assessment to be carried out by a qualified acoustic consultant to ensure the noise from all plant (rating level) is equal to or less than the background noise level at your property. The rating level is the measured noise level plus any penalties for a feature of the sound such as tonality. The cost of this assessment is approx £2500 which will include outline mitigation options.

The easiest solution is for them to move the plant as far from your property as possible and to upgrade the enclosure they are currently using. Heavier material combined with absorbent material on the internals will cut down the noise level although this may not be possible due to air supply and exhaust of a generator.

I carry out this work on a daily basis so please let me know if you have any questions.

That's just the advice I was looking for, thank you.

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Douglas Quaid said:

So what did the landlord say op?

The situation changed so I didn't speak with them. For whatever reason they now just use the castle for 3-4 hours on some days and not at all on others.

Not wanting to be like Victor Meldrew I decided not to say anything and carry on using another pub.

Thanks for the advice tho guys.

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foxbody-87 said:

Damn - too late to suggest buying an air rifle then!

Oh the thought has crossed my mind. I think it might be a bit obvious who pulled the trigger tho.

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DSGbangs said:

Alucidnation said:

Surely if one wanted peace and quiet, buying a house next door to a pub wouldn't even be considered in the search for a property?

My thoughts exactly, OP you signed up too this... if you don't like it move

That's fair comment to a point. Of course I expect some noise from the pub but there have been times when it's been unreasonable. When I moved in over 20 years ago it was a boozer but over the years like other pubs it's had to introduce other stuff to survive.

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DSGbangs said:

At the end of the day it's a boozer, best thing you can do is move!

Possibly right but the pub has had 4 different tenants in the last 5 years so hard for them to make a living. I have a feeling it may close anyway before too long.

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hyphen said:

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DSGbangs said:

At the end of the day it's a boozer, best thing you can do is move!

Possibly right but the pub has had 4 different tenants in the last 5 years so hard for them to make a living. I have a feeling it may close anyway before too long.

At which point it may get turned into a block of flats with balconies facing you!

Both are listed buildings in a conservation area so no chance of that.

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DSGbangs said:

Not too be rude then sir, but what on earth are you moaning about then?!?

I'm not. There was a problem which has now been resolved.

Have you read the thread?

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DSGbangs said:

I have indeed read the thread, I'm just saying the thread was pointless in the first place.

Not going to try and reason with you, glad your problem has been resolved!

With the benefit of hindsight perhaps buying a house next to a pub wasn't ideal but that was over 20 years ago. At the time there was a brilliant publican and I was a regular at the pub, there was a bit of noise but no real problem.

When that publican left the pub was managed for a while, one of the managers ended up in jail after more than 'serving' under age girls in the pub. Then a new tenant was found who thought it ok to have live loud music every weekend and put tables & chairs on the pavement right outside one of our bedroom windows. We had several issues with him and he got enough 'yellow cards' from licensing at the local council so had to go.

The next tenant also liked loud music but lasted less than a year. Another period with managers followed.

The current tenants took over in March. The are certainly giving it a go with the bouncy castle, Sky tv football and some live music. Fair enough they are trying to make a living but I wonder if they will ever take enough £'s to pay for it all. Apparently they got a 6 month rent free period when they took over so that will finish soon.

So do I move or hold on to see if the pub closes?