wanted and furious driving(riding). Court case.

[Pica-Pica]

The court has decided the rider was guilt of 'wanton or furious driving'. How many fixies are on our street.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41028321

[AndrewEH1]

Bad ruling, she shouldn't have stepped out on the road on her phone without looking.

[Tablecloth]

Indeed not but the cyclist should have had brakes on his bike.

[Your Dad]

Established thread over in Pedal Powered:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

[stupidbutkeen]

AndrewEH1 said:

Bad ruling, she shouldn't have stepped out on the road on her phone without looking.

He said he shouted and braked down to around 12-14mph the 1st time the woman stepped from the kerb, Then shouted again and then hit her the 2nd time she stepped from the kerb. Had he even a semi decent front brake he prob would have been able to stop after the 1st time.

Maybe this will be a small wake up call to all those cyclists that think they are outside the laws on the road.

[Mill Wheel]

Your Dad said:

Established thread over in Pedal Powered:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Isn't this the right place to discuss the legal aspects? If that is what is being discussed in Pedal Powered, it should be moved here?

[SantaBarbara]

AndrewEH1 said:

Bad ruling, she shouldn't have stepped out on the road on her phone without looking.

That is how accidents happen all the time

[anonymous-user]

AndrewEH1 said:

Bad ruling, she shouldn't have stepped out on the road on her phone without looking.

Maybe not, I guess she didn't expect a moron to be shooting down the road out of control.

Some tougher legislation for cyclists seems well overdue.

[Pica-Pica]

REALIST123 said:

AndrewEH1 said:

Bad ruling, she shouldn't have stepped out on the road on her phone without looking.

Maybe not, I guess she didn't expect a moron to be shooting down the road out of control.

Some tougher legislation for cyclists seems well overdue.

Although an ancient law the "wanton and furious" definition is interesting. Furious would have no effect if there was no-one else about, but the wanton aspect implies disregard for others or the state of the bicycle.

[GetCarter]

Considering his astonishing comments about her, and his lack of remorse - I hope he gets the full sentence he seems to be due.

If we drive without front brakes, imagine what we (drivers) would get, killing a pedestrian.

Edited by GetCarter on Wednesday 23 August 18:44

[SantaBarbara]

Cycle Licences needed now

[Pica-Pica]

GetCarter said:

Considering his astonishing comments about her, and his lack of remorse - I hope he gets the full sentence he seems to be due.

If we dive without front brakes, imagine what we (drivers) would get, killing a pedestrian.

2 years is maximum, I believe, others have received 6 and 12 moths imprisonment.
He claimed he could not have stopped, even with a front brake, experts reviewing CCTV disagreed.

[Pica-Pica]

[quote=Your Dad]Established thread over in Pedal Powered:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
That thread title is incorrect he was not convicted of manslaughter. He was charged with both manslaughter and wanton and furious driving, and found guilty of the latter, but not convicted of the first.

[MDUBZ]

here we go... get comfortable.

[Pica-Pica]

MDUBZ said:

here we go... get comfortable.

Your point?

[Moaningroadie]

SantaBarbara said:

Cycle Licences needed now

Honest question - what difference would that make?

[MDUBZ]

Pica-Pica said:

Your point?

i think we both know were this thread is heading..

[PorkInsider]

AndrewEH1 said:

Bad ruling, she shouldn't have stepped out on the road on her phone without looking.

If you're going to behave like an absolute tt after an incident and then find yourself in front of a jury, I don't think you can be surprised when they find you guilty.

[Dammit]

REALIST123 said:

Maybe not, I guess she didn't expect a moron to be shooting down the road out of control.

Some tougher legislation for cyclists seems well overdue.

If he'd been driving a car he'd never have been charged, the whole thing is both tragic and ridiculous.

This thread has already shown that the very mention of cycling is a lightning rod for the PH lunatic fringe and no doubt it will turn into the standard cesspool forthwith.

Crack on chaps, you can start calling for cycling to carry the death penalty if you want?

[Oceanrower]

Pretty certain that if I'd been driving a car with half my legally required brakes missing then I'd have been charged.

And probably with something that carried a far higher sentence than this.