Tractor pushes parked cars out of the way
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Wrote a lengthy post, but thought I would keep it short:
Walkers/tourists line a country road with parked cars while they go off for the day into the mountains.
Local farmer is going about his business, comes along with a very large tractor and pulling a large cattle trailer. He comes to the row of parked cars, can't fit though, and can't reverse either because there is nowhere to reverse to, can't turn around, plus he has work to attend to.
Nothing else he can do but push his way through the parked cars.
No note was left, and no one is sure which farmer it was (although the John Deere green paint may narrow it down).
Result: Lots of furious walkers who are now all calling for the farmer to be prosecuted, and demanding to know whose insurance will pay for all this.
Thoughts?
Walkers/tourists line a country road with parked cars while they go off for the day into the mountains.
Local farmer is going about his business, comes along with a very large tractor and pulling a large cattle trailer. He comes to the row of parked cars, can't fit though, and can't reverse either because there is nowhere to reverse to, can't turn around, plus he has work to attend to.
Nothing else he can do but push his way through the parked cars.
No note was left, and no one is sure which farmer it was (although the John Deere green paint may narrow it down).
Result: Lots of furious walkers who are now all calling for the farmer to be prosecuted, and demanding to know whose insurance will pay for all this.
Thoughts?
Willy Nilly said:
I've wanted to do that but never had the balls.
PS, that won't have been a "very large tractor". they don't live in that sort of area.
It depends on your definition of 'very large'.PS, that won't have been a "very large tractor". they don't live in that sort of area.
Edited by Willy Nilly on Sunday 12th November 21:12
It certainly won't have been a Case Quadtrac, but tractors in these parts have grown massively in the last few years and it isn't uncommon for even the hill farmers to have things like a 6000 series John Deere or similar.
Glasgowrob said:
farmer should have got a forklift down and had the cars away 
Funny you should mention that, I have a photo on my phone somewhere of a farmer picking up a car with a Manitou (pallet forks underneath it) and moving it elsewhere because they had parked in his gateway.It happened about 30 miles from this incident.
The farmers are clearly becoming peeved!
Willy Nilly said:
As you live in the area, would it not be a good idea to (not you, natch) to provide some parking for people so they don't block the 'kin roads? Probably be more profitable that farming sheep and bullocks.
I was informed that a farmer has a field just along the road from where this happend where he allows cars to park and charges for it.Apparently there was only a handful of cars using the field.
Johnnytheboy said:
I'm a walker, but
A. On the rare occasions I drive somewhere for a walk I'd never park on the verge like that, and
B. Why would anyone want to get out in to wide open country in the same place as that many other people?
Thread drifting slightly, have you seen the crowds on Mont Blanc, the Matterhorn, Everest and so on? A. On the rare occasions I drive somewhere for a walk I'd never park on the verge like that, and
B. Why would anyone want to get out in to wide open country in the same place as that many other people?
Sa Calobra said:
Anyone with knowledge of that area? Is the carpark often full? Or is it pricey?
Some of those parked cars will be entirely innocent. Still no one deserves that. Whenever I've considered dodgy double parking I've thought what if my car gets clipped, is it blocking access, is it wide enough for a large vehicle etc. Arrogance springs to mind with some of that parking.
As for remberance. What is the relevance. It's not at a national memorial or battlefield.
Looking at google maps from earlier in the threadSome of those parked cars will be entirely innocent. Still no one deserves that. Whenever I've considered dodgy double parking I've thought what if my car gets clipped, is it blocking access, is it wide enough for a large vehicle etc. Arrogance springs to mind with some of that parking.
As for remberance. What is the relevance. It's not at a national memorial or battlefield.
1.) Doubt the car park was full, as the google maps pic has 1 car in the huge field/car park and loads on the verge up to the field. There's another 2 pics from other years that look almost exactly the same.
2.) Not pricey - £3 for the day, £5 if you stay over night
sgtBerbatov said:
In this case, yes it's naughty of the tractor driver to drive off without reporting it (although, in fairness, we don't know he hasn't. He could've done later). But at what point do Pierce, Miranda, Marcus & co. learn that parking their expensive PCP financed motors correctly isn't a hard thing to do and that it's downright obligatory?
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Is he suppose to just sit an wait all day unitl they turn up?
Oakey said:
OP hasn't told us which car is his
None of those cars are mine.I wouldn't park on a grass verge as in my opinion it is practically asking for a mirror to be knocked off, at the very least. I had my front bumper scraped a couple of weeks ago whilst parked squarely in a street parking bay, and that was annoying enough.
My car spent most of the Sunday afternoon parked in a farmers car park at nearby Gatesgarth, for which I paid £4 for the privilege.
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 13th November 18:23
Just been on the TV news now.
More cars damaged than originally pictured. The owner of the Jaguar estimates £10,000 worth of damage.
The TV crew managed to very briefly speak to the farmer off-camera, who refused to be interviewed, but he said there was "a longstanding issue with parked cars, and a problem with visitors showing a lack of respect to local people".
More cars damaged than originally pictured. The owner of the Jaguar estimates £10,000 worth of damage.
The TV crew managed to very briefly speak to the farmer off-camera, who refused to be interviewed, but he said there was "a longstanding issue with parked cars, and a problem with visitors showing a lack of respect to local people".
The case law on wilful obstruction of the highway is to the following effect -
(i) an obstruction is established by proof that any part of the highway has been obstructed so as to deny access by the public to that part;
and
(ii) for the obstruction to constitute an offence it must be wilful, without lawful excuse, and constitute an unreasonable use of the highway.
Some of the motorists may have been obstructing the highway. That doesn't excuse the farmer for trashing the cars.
(i) an obstruction is established by proof that any part of the highway has been obstructed so as to deny access by the public to that part;
and
(ii) for the obstruction to constitute an offence it must be wilful, without lawful excuse, and constitute an unreasonable use of the highway.
Some of the motorists may have been obstructing the highway. That doesn't excuse the farmer for trashing the cars.
I hope the stupid farmer gets hammered for it, there's no excuse for ripping the sides out of cars and then buggering off. And lets be honest, we all know it wasn't accidental in any way, he did it deliberately. If he'd been driving a van and the gap was too narrow, would he have smashed through anyway and destroyed his own vehicle? Of course not, he only did it because he was in a tractor with trailer and could hit the cars with doing any damage to his own vehicle.
Having issues in the past doesn't give him the right to smash up other peoples property, he's clearly a grade-A d
head and hopefully will get what he deserves.
Having issues in the past doesn't give him the right to smash up other peoples property, he's clearly a grade-A d
head and hopefully will get what he deserves.Trevor450 said:
Allegedly, this is the same location so it may appear that he has form.
It’s a Facebook photo and the caption reads: “A reminder to those intending to park/obstruct in the Borrowdale Valley. This is Cumbria, it's lambing season, we have no time for stupidity.”
That was the photo I mentioned earlier in the thread but couldn't find at the time.It’s a Facebook photo and the caption reads: “A reminder to those intending to park/obstruct in the Borrowdale Valley. This is Cumbria, it's lambing season, we have no time for stupidity.”
Pallet forks under a car. Ouch.
Johnnytheboy said:
heebeegeetee said:
Oh for gawd's sake.
Road tax or any kind of road fund duty was abolished by Winston Churchill in 1937, although it's reckoned the ring fencing of taxes to pay for roads was abandoned in 1925.
You've never paid a penny of road tax or road fund duty in your life, and nor has any other motorist. No money is ring fenced for roads, so you've never been able to contribute to the roads at any point in your life, aside possibly from toll roads (and the M6 Toll makes such a massive loss that the users of that road don't cover the upkeep either).
Funding for roads comes from general and local taxation, so basically the more tax you pay the more you pay for the roads. Whether the farmer in question pays more or less than the rest of us, I would neither know nor care.
Anyone but an irredeemably pedantic motoring forum wRoad tax or any kind of road fund duty was abolished by Winston Churchill in 1937, although it's reckoned the ring fencing of taxes to pay for roads was abandoned in 1925.
You've never paid a penny of road tax or road fund duty in your life, and nor has any other motorist. No money is ring fenced for roads, so you've never been able to contribute to the roads at any point in your life, aside possibly from toll roads (and the M6 Toll makes such a massive loss that the users of that road don't cover the upkeep either).
Funding for roads comes from general and local taxation, so basically the more tax you pay the more you pay for the roads. Whether the farmer in question pays more or less than the rest of us, I would neither know nor care.
ker would know what he meant by "road tax" without any clarification.Gassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff