Notice to quit

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Just been informed I will be receiving a notice to quit a rented property - does anyone know if the landlord needs to have a valid reason to issue this or if it can be sent for any/no reason at all?
His justification in this case is that he wants to rent the property to someone else. This is after I've been the tenant for nearly 10 years.
I've got no interest in playing silly buggers, I want to get out asap, but right now the thought of finding somewhere new and moving within 8 weeks is a bit worrying.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Depends what sort of tenancy you have but rarely do they need reason, its their property after all

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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essayer said:
Are you on an Assured Shorthold Tenancy (AST)?
Yes, and having just googled it, it looks like the landlord doesn't need a legal reason. Thanks!

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anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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xjay1337 said:
Landlords are either really nice or complete assholes.
Same as tenants. I've had some great ones and some right aholes.

One on housing benefit and only personally contributing £30 per month asked if we could reduce the rent by said £30 as she was struggling- all said whilst showing off her tan from her latest Spanish holiday

One who couldn't make rent one month but could apparently still afford to smoke enough weed for us to get letters from other people in the block

One, an Essex copper, having the door kicked in by the met.

And our current tenant who seems to destroy white goods on a regular basis, so far replaced washer, dryer, fridge freezer and oven.

I dream of a long term pleasant tenant

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Thanks for the advice everyone, it is appreciated.
Spoke to the lettings agent earlier and they are hand delivering the notice to quit this afternoon. The landlord will be renting the place to one of his employees, so while there may be some flexibility on the notice, there's no chance of changing his mind.
I am gutted about it. Obviously it's one of the risks of renting, but after this amount of time it feels like 'my home' has been ripped away from me.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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OK, the section 21 (1) (B) has arrived. Notice is precisely two calendar months from the date the letter is legally deemed to have been served.
The thing I'm confused about now is whether I'm on a fixed term or periodic tenancy. I signed up for a year initially, never signed anything else and have been paying monthly ever since, so I assume it's periodic. In which case TM2CVs is right, it should be two months from the next rental period, which starts 10th April, and would give me a handy extra couple of weeks.
If however I am on a fixed term, it looks like the notice should run until the end of that, which is July.
Either way, I'm now officially house hunting.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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2008.

Just spoken to the agent and they've said categorically he only has to give me two months notice, 'the law changed' about it running from the start of the rental period. Which is weird because everything online says it does have to run from the rental period.

Found this on the gov website:

'If it’s a periodic tenancy, you must also let your tenants stay for any additional time covered by their final rent payment.'

Edited by Spumfry on Friday 23 March 16:32

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Spumfry said:
2008.

Just spoken to the agent and they've said categorically he only has to give me two months notice, 'the law changed' about it running from the start of the rental period. Which is weird because everything online says it does have to run from the rental period.
They are wrong.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/renting-...

If you have a 'contractual periodic tenancy'

Your section 21 notice must end on the last day of your tenancy period if you have a ‘contractual periodic tenancy’. This means your tenancy has been rolling from the beginning, or you agreed it would keep rolling after your fixed term ended.

For example, if your tenancy runs to the 23rd of the month, your section 21 notice must end on the 23rd of that month.

Your section 21 notice must say that your landlord is trying to make you leave your home using section 21.

If you don’t have a contractual periodic tenancy, for example if you have a fixed-term tenancy that has ended, your landlord only has to give you 2 months’ notice.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Also, just to be absolutely sure... from here: https://www.rla.org.uk/landlord/guides/section-21-...

New assured shorthold tenancies in England starting from October 1st 2015 onwards will have to use the new standardised Section 21 form and abide by all the requirements for valid service. New for these purposes includes the renewal of tenancies but not statutory periodic tenancies.

anonymous-user

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55 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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Thanks again to everyone, and particularly to Wings, for all the excellent advice. I now have reason to believe that the Section 21 I received isn't valid. I'm still planning on getting out as soon as possible, but it's some comfort to know that I could have some extra time if I absolutely need it.