Car keys found and witheld until proof of ownership

Car keys found and witheld until proof of ownership

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Nemophilist

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Wednesday 11th December 2019
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I don't currently know the full details yet but what I know so far is:

My friend lost her car key on Monday am. Assumed she had lost them in the house she looks all over.

Today a man knocks on her door and says he has found a car key on the pavement outside her house and asks if it is hers.

She says yes and that she was looking for it.

He wont give them to her until she shows him proof she owns the car.

The car is parked on a public road.

She doesn't have the log book as it is leased.

I can only assume she trusts him to bring the key back when she finds she has suitable proof its her car.

She has a 4 year old to get to nursery in the next village and has been relying on lifts.

What would be the quickest way of proving the car is hers?

I am obviously not as trusting as her as in my view, he has effectively stole her car key.







Nemophilist

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bhstewie said:
Nothing at all on paper or email to show she's
  • Taxed it?
  • Insured it?
  • MOT'd it?
  • Serviced it?
  • Pays for it?
confused
I have suggested insurance as its most likely to be available on phone.
Unsure what she would have to prove who pays but will ask.

Edited by Nemophilist on Wednesday 11th December 22:54

Nemophilist

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Flumpo said:
Is he still at the door?!

I would have given him the reg number, car colour type and walked with him to unlock it.

If that wasn’t enough I would begrudgingly show him an email about the car that surely exists.

If he was still refusing, police time.
I'm assuming shes let him go home. Not something I or I expect most people would do.


Nemophilist

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Flumpo said:
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but I can’t comprehend this situation. Unless this is a prime example of two idiots colliding.

Man: hello, I’ve found some car keys outside have you lost any?
Friend: oh my god yes, I’ve been worried sick and looking everywhere.
Man: just to be safe what type of keys have you lost?
Friend: no problem, it’s ford key for the blue 19 reg focus just down there. I will show you.
Man: that’s great, here are your keys.
My thoughts exactly.
I cant help think that unless he was a very strange person she wouldn't be in this situation.



Edited by Nemophilist on Wednesday 11th December 22:53

Nemophilist

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steveo3002 said:
yeah you'd think so eh , could also say yeah theres a meatloaf cd in the glovebox and some used pink underkrackers in the spare wheel weel or such like
Thats what I was thinking, there must be items of hers in the carboot that only she could describe.

Ive asked her what on earths going on so will see what she comes back with.


Nemophilist

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She's just told me that she was so taken aback that he didnt just give her the keys that she didn't even think about looking for her insurance papers or anything else to prove it.

Hes not there now.

She has a number and said she will ask him to drop them to the police station and she will pick them up from there.

Im not too sure what proof the police ask for in these situations.

I'l offer to go with her to meet him if there's any trouble.

Nemophilist

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Update - the bloke still has the keys

Not given them to police.

She sent him her insurance docs and he has told her he would look through it.

I’ve told her to speak to non emergency police to get some advice as this doesn’t seem right at all to me.

It’s only a standard little hatchback car. Not exactly a target for a thief.

Nemophilist

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Thursday 12th December 2019
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All sorted.

The guy posted the key through her letterbox late last night so she found it on her doormat this morning

She told me he was mid 30’s and his wife is a police officer, so maybe something to do with that.

She said she was just so surprised he didn’t give them to her when he knocked on her door the first time.
He held them o it right in front of her face and she was so excited and thankful he found them and when she went to reach for them he snatched them back and said he needed proof.

It’s been a bit stressful as she’s been relying on lifts and an unreliable bus but she’s just glad she’s got it back now.

Guy is obviously just a strange one or on a bit of a power trip.

Nemophilist

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washingitagain said:
Just reading the thread wound me up, the guy sounds a complete tool. He needed a firm talking to. Did he use the phrase "computer says no" at any point?

There are simply loads of ways to prove the car is theirs, contents of car, insurance paperwork (I could call mine up on my phone in seconds), reg doc (I know, it doesn't prove ownership), other keys on the fob which open other stuff.
She was shocked as she had a child seat in the car and although not an immediate neighbour, is a known local.
All very strange.