Crime network cracked.

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Hundreds arrested as crime chat network cracked https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53263310

Sounds rather like a good result. Clever bit of hacking

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carinaman said:

Cops selling information so drug dealers can use that information to raid their competitors before the police raid them?

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-new...

The vice website link in this thread and the NPE thread on it mentions at least two other encrypted mobile phone solutions that criminals may be using.

The mainstream media reporting yesterday failed to mention that the raids took place now as the people running this encrypted system had realised their system had been compromised. Half the story from the BBC and the Director from the NCA.

How confident would you be the competing secure networks were still secure?

The brilliance of this is how much clear data has been collected, and the uncertainty of who and what to trust in the criminal enterprises.

This is a big win for law enforcement globally.

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itsnotarace said:

eldar said:

This is a big win for law enforcement globally.

Its a big loss as their activity was detected

Maybe it still is being detected. That is the clever bit.

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carinaman said:

I saw the thread in NP&E and read through some of the Vice link on the system and how it worked yesterday afternoon. I also heard the interview with the Director of the NCA on BBC Radio 4's PM. I was aware of this news item before you started your thread here. Sorry I won't be going out on my door step and clapping for the good work of the NCA and law enforcement agencies in Europe who compromised the secure comms. system.

I'd be more impressed if the Director of the NCA had replied 'Yes, it was police abroad that got into the system but it was an International police effort'. I'd prefer the police to keep it factual rather than spin it like marketeers or politicians. You may like your police officers coming over like Marketing people and Politicians but I don't have to buy into that. Everyone gets prizes.

Operation Ore?

Did that stop paedophiles and those that get off looking at sexual images of children using the Internet?

I would suggest to you that it didn't.

I suspect if the Police developed a cure for cancer, you'd berate them because it didn't also cure ingrowing toenails.

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Brads67 said:

We don't have law "enforcement" agencies here in the UK much as they call themselves that and would love to be that.

We have Law upholders, and a judicial system that enforces the law. The cops are just the general public except they have decided to carry out public duties as a full time job.
So basically I'm very sceptical about giving them powers that they can abuse with impunity.

Like hacking private communications.

Including private paedophile networks and the people scamming your granny out of her life savings?

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Brads67 said:

No one was punished for the police breaking that rule so yes, impunity.

I have been stopped by the police for exceeding the speed limit by a modest amount. I received a bking, but no formal charge.

Does that mean I have immunity for speeding?

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George Smiley said:

brads are you tbops?

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Brads67 said:

What's that ?

A businessman that used to frequent PH. He was, I understand, a chemist.

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normalbloke said:

Those really are some numbers. Once I’d got over misreading 83 goats, it sunk in. Great work, looking forward to some of the documentaries that may come out because of this.

How many of the 6558 suspects ended up convicted of an offence?