No right turn sign.
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Hi I made a stupid mistake this morning, coming into a job I had next to Finchley lane there is a no right turn sign on one of the streets, there is no traffic lights next to it before anyone asks it’s only a sign.
I have indeed seen cctv cameras looking at that road, what’s the crack with this?
What’s the fine and does it carry any points with it or is it just a simple payment with no points?
I have indeed seen cctv cameras looking at that road, what’s the crack with this?
What’s the fine and does it carry any points with it or is it just a simple payment with no points?
No ideas for a name said:
I had to refer to the Traffic Signs manual as I didn't think it was clear... it implies "Prohibition applies at all times.Cycles permitted during times shown"
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
Page 34, Figure 4?22 Supplementary time plates for banned turn signs
It isn't clear at all, in fact I am not 100% sure the sign says what they think it says. I wonder what the TRO actually says? (May be a get out for the OP).
I think the sign is only active during these hours, outside these hours I suppose it can be ignored?https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...
Page 34, Figure 4?22 Supplementary time plates for banned turn signs
It isn't clear at all, in fact I am not 100% sure the sign says what they think it says. I wonder what the TRO actually says? (May be a get out for the OP).
Either way if the fine comes I suppose I’ll just pay it; I think with PCN they give you 50% off if you pay within certain amount of days.
I have read on another forum that people got done exactly on the same road as me, that resulted in 130 quid fine or 65 quid if paid within 7 days I believe.
I was only worrying if that carries points with it tbh for something so stupid.
Right 2 simple things, anyone advise on the first one is appreciated
1. This offence is dealt with a PCN, I suppose a fine and no points?
2. I had work down there, getting from the other side of the road was a bit of a pain, and it was almost impossible to reverse into it unless you came in the way I did (32tonne lorry in london is no fun lol).
Either way I probably won’t challenge the offence as I did commit it at the end of the day, as long as there is no points on license for his I’m happy, if anyone can clear this up for me please do.
1. This offence is dealt with a PCN, I suppose a fine and no points?
2. I had work down there, getting from the other side of the road was a bit of a pain, and it was almost impossible to reverse into it unless you came in the way I did (32tonne lorry in london is no fun lol).
Either way I probably won’t challenge the offence as I did commit it at the end of the day, as long as there is no points on license for his I’m happy, if anyone can clear this up for me please do.
I’m not gonna lie I’m starting to hate that Finchley Road in london, as soon as you come up the a41 from the M1 it’s a nightmare with all the restrictions etc on it, it’s almost impossible to drive anywhere other than in a straight line during morning hours in a HGV.
Like I said I hold my hands up to it, I seen the sign and decided to ignore it thinking I know better lol, I’ll take the fine IF it comes lol.
Also joining in on the discussion, the prohibited turn is only enforceable during the set hours, outside of these hours you are able to make that turn, I spoke to one of my friends who is a hgv driving instructor and to his understanding that’s what it means.
If it was a no turn sign enforced 24/7 I suppose there wouldn’t be any point putting any times on it, I suppose it would say no turning at any time or something along these lines, the except cycles bit applies all the time they can go there at any time.
Regardless I find it extremely pathetic as it is a 2 way street, it’s a residential area and they’re only making it harder for people to get to they’re homes during these hours? Lol.
Like i said I feel the pain of the residents of Briardale Gardens and Pattison Road, Finchley Road at 3pm is a nightmare and the only option at the moment with these signs being enforced is to go to one of the busiest junctions in Finchley and turn left into Platts Lane, and on a good day that can take some time.
Like I said I hold my hands up to it, I seen the sign and decided to ignore it thinking I know better lol, I’ll take the fine IF it comes lol.
Also joining in on the discussion, the prohibited turn is only enforceable during the set hours, outside of these hours you are able to make that turn, I spoke to one of my friends who is a hgv driving instructor and to his understanding that’s what it means.
If it was a no turn sign enforced 24/7 I suppose there wouldn’t be any point putting any times on it, I suppose it would say no turning at any time or something along these lines, the except cycles bit applies all the time they can go there at any time.
Regardless I find it extremely pathetic as it is a 2 way street, it’s a residential area and they’re only making it harder for people to get to they’re homes during these hours? Lol.
Like i said I feel the pain of the residents of Briardale Gardens and Pattison Road, Finchley Road at 3pm is a nightmare and the only option at the moment with these signs being enforced is to go to one of the busiest junctions in Finchley and turn left into Platts Lane, and on a good day that can take some time.
Getragdogleg said:
It's pretty much why we don't run our vehicles into London at all anym.
Too many wallet raiding opportunities and sneaky rule changes/hard to read while trying to actually drive signs.
I honestly don’t mind driving into London, it’s just certain roads and roundabouts that I hate especially in Highgate and Holloway and Cricklewood area other than that its not too bad tbh.Too many wallet raiding opportunities and sneaky rule changes/hard to read while trying to actually drive signs.
Like i said I’ll take the fine on the chin and move on if anything comes out of it; there is always a chance I haven’t been clocked by an camera operator fingers crossed.
The sign is clear there and there is no debating that, I just wanted to know what the outcome is on stuff like that.
I don’t blame you for not sending stuff into london anymore though I must admit the traffic can get a bit intense and it’s so easy to misjudge a yellow box junction or simply miss a sign as your focusing on an idiot moped driver right next to your cab lol.
Zirconium said:
What time did you make your turn OP? You said morning, so I guess it was between 6 - 10.30am? If outside of those times, I guess you could make the argument that you did not think it applied to you.
9am or whatever it was, it is what it is, if it comes then I guess I’m down 65 quid hahaGassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff