No Mask, No Entry, No Exceptions

No Mask, No Entry, No Exceptions

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bad company

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Saturday 5th June 2021
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I don’t want to start another pro/anti mask debate, there’s been a few of those.

I’ve passed a few mainly smaller shops and cafes with signage saying you cannot enter without a mask, no exceptions. Does this contravene disability laws?

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Saturday 5th June 2021
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bern said:
I don't think it is legal but it would presumably need someone to test it?

I'd just vote with my feet and shop somewhere with less bigoted views. Whether I was a mask wearer or not.
That’s exactly what I did but I wondered if the local authority or anyone else enforces such laws.

I say the local authority as they seem to police our local pubs to ensure Covid compliance.

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steveo3002 said:
Red9zero said:
Masks in cars get me. Fair enough in a taxi, or if you are giving someone a lift, ok if it's not your car, but I've seen people in their own cars, on their own, wearing a mask. Would you not just run a Dettol wipe over the inside instead if you were that bothered ? I regularly see a chap go past our house in his convertible, with the roof down, wearing a mask. It's just odd.
MASKS SAVES LIVES - DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ?

have you heard of anyone catching it while driving with a mask on?? there you go -proof!

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Saturday 5th June 2021
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eldrich said:
Currently living in a country where face masks are required from the moment you leave you house until you return with the exception of being alone in a car, being alone in an office. Even riding a bike requires a face mask.

Asthma and other issues do not give an exception, its hot here +32 at the moment and will be +37 soon, still no exceptions, honestly I wear the mask in the car by myself because I completely forget its there after 10 mins.

The fines for not wearing a mask start at around 300 pounds and if you continue to refuse third offence and you are taken to a quarantine facility, essentially you lose your right to be be free.

Draconian but I have not seen anyone outside without a mask for 2 wks now.
Where on earth is that? Sounds awful.

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V8covin said:
The place I buy my work supplies from still only allows 1 customer in the premises at a time and a mask is compulsory.
Ironically most of the staff don't wear a mask and they go out twice a day in the vans delivering.
It is completely illogical
If the staff aren’t wearing masks neither would I.

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Saturday 5th June 2021
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sospan said:
Masks are one part of simple common sense precautions to reduce ( not eradicate) transmission. I am happy to wear one where it is required. The trouble is there are too many self important “ rules don't apply to me” t***s about. If you have a genuine reason to not wear one then that is ok. Atthe moment the UK is in a fairly good place re infections/ spread so itwill not be much longer before we will be in the “ low risk so live with it ” stage.
We have had a cycle of lockdown/ release as infections reappear due to relaxation of guidelines and creation of conditions to cause spread. We don’t want a repeat and the only success this Gov has had in the vaccine program has been a game changer.
Covid is here to stay with variants as with other viruses so we are about to hit the live with it stage. Likely The Boris target date despite Variant D .
Yes there are stupid inconsistencies in rules and their interpretation but basically it is down to individual responsibility, something we seem to lack.
Me? I’ll wear a mask when needed or required. No big deal.
Why the big fuss? There are both deniers/ entitled and jobsworths on each opposite side. If someone becomes over zealous then my action is to just go and take my business elsewhere. I dod once question an over zealous person asking them of their knowledge of viruses/ epidemiology and pointed out their errors before leaving.
Anyway, we will soon have much less restrictions. Not quote pre Covid normality but close.
How does any of that relate to the op’s (my) question?

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Sunday 6th June 2021
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CooperS said:
I don't see why wearing a mask which reduces transmission at points where we most likely to receive or transmit covid i.e. enclosed public spaces is seen as such an impediment.

Get over it. what reduction in quality of life are you impacted by?

Wearing a mask and cleaning my hands didn't stop me going on a city break this week, going out for meals and drinks or generally living life....
You clearly have no problems wearing a mask/muzzle, millions of others including me most certainly do. They’re uncomfortable, unhygienic and imo dehumanising.

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Sunday 6th June 2021
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rscott said:
bad company said:
CooperS said:
I don't see why wearing a mask which reduces transmission at points where we most likely to receive or transmit covid i.e. enclosed public spaces is seen as such an impediment.

Get over it. what reduction in quality of life are you impacted by?

Wearing a mask and cleaning my hands didn't stop me going on a city break this week, going out for meals and drinks or generally living life....
You clearly have no problems wearing a mask/muzzle, millions of others including me most certainly do. They’re uncomfortable, unhygienic and imo dehumanising.
If your mask is unhygienic, then that's your fault and no-one else's. Use disposable ones or change and wash a cloth one regularly.
No need, I don’t wear one any more.

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As a ‘non masker’ I was asked just once at a cafe in Hampstead if I was exempt. Other than that nobody queried anything and I wasn’t using a badge or lanyard.

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Sunday 6th June 2021
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Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
I'm assuming all of the people that decide they don't want to wear a mask, would be happy with surgical staff not wearing them if they had to operate on them, because you know, what's the point, they don't do anything, and the surgical team might not want to wear them.
There’s something of a difference between being in an operating theatre compared to a shop. The surgical staff were wearing masks before Covid and will continue to do so after.

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Sunday 6th June 2021
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mattyprice4004 said:
bad company said:
You clearly have no problems wearing a mask/muzzle, millions of others including me most certainly do. They’re uncomfortable, unhygienic and imo dehumanising.
Dehumanising? Get a grip ffs
Oh I’m sticking with dehumanising thanks. As stated earlier I’ve stopped using them.


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Sunday 6th June 2021
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Driver101 said:
It's a ridiculous statement. The next bit is also lacking common sense.

You don't see any difference in walking around a restaurant coming face to face with strangers, or sitting at a table with your partner, friend or family?
Difference yes, danger or logical, no.

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Sunday 6th June 2021
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Driver101 said:
For the sake of sensible discussion moderators should be removing the trolls.

You're too desperate to stir people up for a reaction.
By troll you seem to mean anyone who disagrees with you.

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Sunday 6th June 2021
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anonymous said:
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I’ve never been challenged in any supermarket for not wearing a mask. I reckon the staff have been told not to.

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Sunday 6th June 2021
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monthou said:
Vaccination reduces risk. It doesn't eliminate it.
Mask use is advised to protect others, not the wearer.

How on earth can anyone be unaware of that by this point?
We’re all aware of the propaganda being spouted but not all of us believe it.


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Sunday 6th June 2021
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My kind of pub.


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Monday 7th June 2021
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Monday 7th June 2021
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SiH said:
Rather like your ideas that this is all some kind of exercise in government mind control, that pub sign is also fake. I can see why it would appeal to you so much.
Actually I don’t think it’s an exercise in mind control though many do. I say there’s been a major over reaction, it’s time to get back to normal particularly for vaccinated people.

Edited by bad company on Monday 7th June 09:43

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Monday 7th June 2021
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Countdown said:
i think the article below helps to explain why some people still don't accept that masks help.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02801-8
That was written 8 months ago, we’ve moved on or at least we should have done.

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Monday 7th June 2021
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rscott said:
Yep, we have - the CDC are now even clearer in their views that masks reduce transmission. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/...

We also now have pretty effective vaccines which, once the vast majority of the population have had them, will have an even bigger impact on the spread and mean masks won't generally be needed.
I wish I could believe that. I reckon the masks will become a habit from many, rather like a baby’s dummy.