TfL to slap 20mph limit on 65km more of London roads in Sept

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/20mph-speed...

Another 1 of 1 million reasons to stay away from the dump London has become.

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POIDH said:

I really like the 20mph limits in Scotland - and feel that the majority of drivers have slowed down (albeit not down to the 20mph), benefitting us all with safer, healthier and more sustainable lives.

For those looking to maintain 30mph, what makes you think that is an appropriate speed in a built up area?

20mph round a school at 3pm is completely reasonable.

20mph at 2am on a 6-lane carriageway is pure evil.

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trails said:

So it used to be better; explain!

Horrendous traffic, ULEZ, blanket 20mph speed limits, huge increase knife crime and theft, hideously expensive house prices, shall I go on?

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James6112 said:

“Transport for London (TfL) is pushing forward with plans to reduce the speed limits on 137 miles of its 367-mile network by 2024”

As long as targeted to residential/side roads, good news.
Hopefully enforced.
The twonks going too fast are the reason this is coming (not just London)

And you think the twonks going too fast are going to obey the new limits despite breaking the old limits already….?

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oyster said:

RSTurboPaul said:

Travelling after midnight is 'an extreme case'?

By definition it must be - the roads are empty aren’t they?

RSTurboPaul said:

Those evening and night workers better be careful or they'll get branded 'extremists' at this rate.

Err no, that’s a very poor extrapolation and devalues the debate.

London main roads being virtually empty to the point that an 20mph limit is completely unnecessary are not an ‘extreme case.’

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oyster said:

You can’t have it both ways. If a road is so quiet that a 20mph limit being applied seems inappropriate, then by definition it must be a rare/extreme/edge case (call it whatever word). If it was very common then the road wouldn’t be virtually empty!

Just because something's not 'very common' doesn't make it 'extreme.' There are situations in between the two it's not automatically one or the other

The very fact that there's the same speed limit on a wide empty main road in the evening as a small street next to a school at 3pm tells you all you need to know about safety.