Was my driving technically correct?

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I was going uphill, 30 limit, cars parked along left hand side. Only room on the road for one car in either direction, middle of village.

200 yards away coming in the opposite direction comes BMW X6 travelling at 38mph.

I am approaching just before the line of parked cars and it is clear that the BMW expects to plow ahead and I should wait for him.

I knew there were occasional gaps between the parked cars, so I keep going at 25mph aiming at the next gap to pull over and allow BMW through.

In the process sadly the BMW had to slow down quite a bit to allow me to carry on to the gap.

Cue wild gesticulating from him and his wife, they seemed angry.

Surely I had right of way? Was I being unreasonable about making a point about right of way?

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ScoobyChris said:

May have misunderstood, but if the cars are parked in your lane, what makes you think you have “right of way”?

Chris

I don't think they were parked in my lane exactly

It's a village so it's just cars parked against the curb, no road markings

Edited by Hammersia on Sunday 17th March 17:17

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Metric Max said:

How did the OP know that the passenger in the BMW was the man's wife?

Because they were of a type

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Super Sonic said:

There is also the consideration that if one of the vehicles is established on it's manoeuvre through the obstruction, the other vehicle should give way regardless of priority.

Well it wasn't one obstruction, more groups of different obstructions (gaps between the parked cars).

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ScoobyChris said:

rgf100 said:

Highway Code
> Give way to road users coming uphill whenever you can.

Don’t know about this case, obviously, but I can see how someone going uphill might think they have priority, all else being equal.

The full rule is:

HC said:

Rule 155
Single-track roads. These are only wide enough for one vehicle. They may have special passing places. If you see a vehicle coming towards you, or the driver behind wants to overtake, pull into a passing place on your left, or wait opposite a passing place on your right. Give way to road users coming uphill whenever you can. If necessary, reverse until you reach a passing place to let the other vehicle pass. Slow down when passing pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders.

Not sure it’s applicable to a “normal” road. When I learnt, giving priority to vehicles coming uphill was encouraged although I’d always assumed this was because in the old days cars were underpowered and might require a “run up” to get up hills. Don’t think that’s such an issue now.

Chris

That's what I figured cheers

I think the uphill bit trumps the side the obstruction is on bit.

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Monkeylegend said:

Jordie Barretts sock said:

I still want to know how the OP knew the BMW was doing a very specific 38mph.

Me too.

I do a lot of miles I'm a pretty good judge of speed

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Super Sonic said:

Hammersia said:

I do a lot of miles I'm a pretty good judge of speed

And the type people are of?
Sorry if I'm kicking you when your down, but you're like a kitten lying on it's back saying "don't tickle my tummy"

You know, mid tier local council manager types

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E-bmw said:

Hammersia said:

ScoobyChris said:

May have misunderstood, but if the cars are parked in your lane, what makes you think you have “right of way”?

Chris

I don't think they were parked in my lane exactly

It's a village so it's just cars parked against the curb, no road markings

Edited by Hammersia on Sunday 17th March 17:17

So, looking at that pic, you had to go over the median to continue.

What makes you think you had the right of way when you would clearly be on the other side of the road?

As I say, I was going uphill

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Monkeylegend said:

Jordie Barretts sock said:

Hammersia said:

Monkeylegend said:

Jordie Barretts sock said:

I still want to know how the OP knew the BMW was doing a very specific 38mph.

Me too.

I do a lot of miles I'm a pretty good judge of speed

Oh, right.



Here, have another

Except you clearly were not in this case forcing another driver to slam on his brakes to avoid a head on collision

He didn't have to slam on the brakes, didn't say that, he had to ease off the gas to a more sensible speed

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PhilboSE said:

OP has multiple postings in his history where he asserts his status as a driving god and is absolutely resolute in his correctness in all things.

There’s no point trying to reason or debate with him.

If nobody agreed with me you might have a point. However there seems to be an even split. So there's that.

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cuprabob said:

pfwilliams said:

I know this village - it isn't even a hill!

Maybe it is to a Peugeot 308 Active

I didn't say it was a hill, just that I was going uphill, elevation data for you going East to West, uphill:

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said:

1 second is 80 feet so 20 seconds is 1600 feet, or 533 yards.

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Super Sonic said:

Hammersia said:

1 second is 80 feet so 20 seconds is 1600 feet, or 533 yards.

At 54 mph? Not sure who you're replying to or what point you're trying to make.

I'm replying to the distance query, it's shown on the longitude coordinate measurements I posted.

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Jayho said:

Hammersia said:

I didn't say it was a hill, just that I was going uphill, elevation data for you going East to West, uphill:

Surely there needs to be a hill before you can go uphill? Or the argument that you should have priority as you were going uphill would only be relevant if the incline is enough to cause hardship? Would this incline have caused you hardship to stop, pause and wait before setting off again?

I've always seen this as a convention, like if two aircraft are coming head on the convention is to both turn right.

So in the case of a gentle road incline it just helps if everyone follows the convention of priority to the vehicle going uphill, as others have said ITT. Obvious really.

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White-Noise said:

OP have you got dash cam footage by any chance? Might help me understand y'know

Sadly not, didn't realise it was going to be so controversial

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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Fecking hell, THERE IS NO SUCH CONVENTION on a normal road. It is not obvious. No matter how many times you say it or how much you would like your driving not to be st, it is not true.

PLEASE stop thinking this before you have a nasty accident. You WILL be in the wrong.

Stop digging and step away from the keyboard.



but before you do....




Please explain how you managed to "travel uphill" on a road that is not a hill?

Collins Dictionary:

"A slope is the side of a mountain, hill, or valley. Saint-Christo is perched on a mountain slope. 2. countable noun. A slope is a surface that is at an angle, so that one end is higher than the other."

In other words you can be travelling uphill but be in a valley, for example, ie not on a hill.

(Any issues with that please take it up with Collins.)

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TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Hammersia said:

TriumphStag3.0V8 said:

Fecking hell, THERE IS NO SUCH CONVENTION on a normal road. It is not obvious. No matter how many times you say it or how much you would like your driving not to be st, it is not true.

PLEASE stop thinking this before you have a nasty accident. You WILL be in the wrong.

Stop digging and step away from the keyboard.



but before you do....




Please explain how you managed to "travel uphill" on a road that is not a hill?

Collins Dictionary:

"A slope is the side of a mountain, hill, or valley. Saint-Christo is perched on a mountain slope. 2. countable noun. A slope is a surface that is at an angle, so that one end is higher than the other."

In other words you can be travelling uphill but be in a valley, for example, ie not on a hill.

(Any issues with that please take it up with Collins.)

Wow, still digging.

And where in the highway code does it say you have priority when travelling up a surface that is at an angle. Page and rule number please.

You would go up a notch in my estimation if you firstly accept you were wrong about the definition of uphill