You Need Hi-Viz/Triangle in France or face FINE

You Need Hi-Viz/Triangle in France or face FINE

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WildCat

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Wednesday 1st October 2008
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I am sorry.. it in FRENCH language. I cannot help it if it apply to foreign country - but if you travel there.. intend to travel there ..

you need to know


http://www.france-info.com/spip.php?article191721&...





http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2008/10/01/478705-...


I summarise in English. I put up the French so that you can perhaps see where I resource the information. rolleyes I not make stuff up. I do source or have ground to support opinions after all. wink


article said:
Gilet jaune, triangle rouge: gare à l'amende

Route. Les automobilistes risquent dès aujourd'hui 135 € d'amende s'ils n'ont pas leur gilet réfléchissant et le triangle de présignalisation.
It mean you face ON SPOT fine for not having a hi-viz gilet or hazard kit in car. rolleyes if in France. (It already exist in Spain.. Portugal. Germans foam if no First Aid kit. wink )

FIne = 135€





article said:
À partir d'aujourd'hui, chaque automobiliste devra avoir dans son véhicule un gilet jaune auto réfléchissant et un triangle de présignalisation. C'est la loi qui l'exige. Et si cet équipement fait défaut la maréchaussée peut vous administrer une amende de 135 €, ramenée à 90 € si elle est payée sur place ou dans les trois jours.
You pay less .. 90€ if you pays up within 3 days of being hit by gendarme.


This bit of the law - icing on cake though laugh

article said:
Les cyclistes qui circulent hors de la ville, la nuit, ou dans de mauvaises conditions météo devront quant à eux revêtir leur gilet sous peine de recevoir 35 € d'amende (22 € si elle est réglée dans les deux semaines).
CYCLISTS will be fined 35€ if not wearing hi-viz in bad weather or in rural areas or at night. hehe They will only pay 22 € if they agree to pay promptly.

Remember .. when EU sneeze.. it become UK law under directive in due course wink

But here an anomaly

article said:
Bizarrement, les motards et scooters n'ont aucune obligation particulière, même si le port du gilet est recommandé.
Bikers/scooter riders do not have to wear one.


There also exist some confusion in the wording of the law.

BE CAREFUL


The law as I understand its wording read that ONLY the driver need wear the gilet.

Gendarme may try to fleece for not providing for each passenger in car.

This post important to all who intend to drive in France from today.

They are targetting Brits who will be unaware of this - per the AA/RAC. BOF Alors!

Be CAREFUL in France. DO Homework on laws before travel. wink

WildCat

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Wednesday 1st October 2008
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True. It become law on continent.

It will be law here soon. It usually ist. winkrolleyes

I do not know why I roll eyes. I always have had emergency kit in car und dressed like the fairy queen on top of Christmas tree when on bicycle .. laugh

I wear fishnet stockings when I ride bicycle. I made a gilet/skort outfit out of a lurex glittery old cocktail dress.. so it sparkle laugh I wear hi-viz gilet too. Some folk now think I am an unmarked "stealthmobile" rofl

WildCat

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a boardman said:
I also belive that it has to be in reach from the drivers seat and not in the boot etc...
You believe right love

It has to be in the saloon.


We have had reports of police stopping UK drivers as they leave ferry ports in Northern France so far. rolleyes

Be careful. French are not very good at "discretion" with those who not speaky lingo wink

WildCat

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Thursday 2nd October 2008
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timskipper said:
google said:
http://www.france-info.com/spip.php?article191721&...

The hunt is open yellow vests
France Info - Hier, 06:00 France Info - Yesterday, 06:00

After three months of teaching and recall the law, the police have from today to verbalize record of motorists who have not purchased the fluorescent jacket and the triangle pre-signaling ...

The fluorescent vest, mostly yellow, and red triangle signs are pre-compulsory in all vehicles with the exception of the two-wheel since 1 July. The Minister of Ecology, responsible for road safety, however, had granted a delay so that all motorists buy "in the best conditions".

This grace period has expired. The sanctions come into force today.

What the law says. A retro-reflective vest complies with existing regulations (EC stamped), must be worn by the driver before he leaves his car stopped on the roadway or its vicinity, following a decision of emergency.

As for the triangle pre-signaling (E marking 27R), the driver must place it on the road, when it comes out of the vehicle at a distance of 30 meters from the obstacle to report. The illumination of hazard warning is also mandatory.

The vest should be at your hands in the cockpit, but does nothing to raise ostentatious manner on the seat (!) And even less to wear while driving, while the triangle can be found in the trunk.
Well if that comedy translation (gotta love Google language services) is right, only the driver needs one, but it does need to be in the car. I guess stuffed under the drivers seat.

But it then goes on to say:

google said:
Cyclists, drivers and passengers must wear the vest to travel at night whenever they are outside built-up areas, and even days when visibility is poor. Failing that, they face a ticket for 35 euros.

In contrast, motorcycles, mopeds, sidecars and quads are so far not subject to this new regulation.
Which seems to suggest everyone in the car has to wear it when travelling at night round country roads?! WTF?!

Edited by timskipper on Thursday 2nd October 07:00
I also love Googly und Babbly Fish. hehe It always amuse me that folk understand the "tranlation" - yet find my spelling mistakes "impossible to understand" wink The way it read ist almost "erotic" "Ooooh la la!" rofl


But seriously - there ist a lot of concern over the wording of this law as it not clear if each person in the car need a gilet or just the driver. There are fears amongst the French motor enthusiasts that this a licence to "fine folks"