No Motor Vehicles Except for Access Sign?

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As far as motoring law is concerned Can someone please define "access"

And the penalty for disobeying the sign. points and/or fine?

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tvrgit said:

Definitions:

If you live on a busy road - it's a rat run.

If you don't, but want to use it - it's not.

There you go, simple as that.

I like your thinking, but i also think from a legal/bib perspective its not quite that simple,

I found another forum that mentioned if you are Proven to have contravened this sign it is a fine but no points? i am struggling to find any more info on google? Anybody else have any joy?

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Well what do you know, yesterday I got pulled by the bib for travelling down a road that had this very sign!!!!

The conversation after I climbed into the back of the X5......

Bib:....Do you live down here sir?

Me:....No sir I live about twenty miles away.

Bib:.....Why are you here then?

Me:......Im on my way home from work sir.

Bib:..........Where do you work?

Me:..........I own a business 3 miles that way.

Bib:............Are you aware that its a £30 fine for entering a no access sign.

Me:.........Why yes sir but im house hunting and Im sure there are a couple of houses on this road that would save me an awful lot of commuting.

Bib:..........Good answer!

Followed by him and me bursting into laughter!

Bib:.........Off you go!



As others have said on this thread.

Impossible to police!!!

Ill keep checking daily just in case the particular house that im after comes on the market, I mean i wouldnt want to miss it would I !

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In the 4 months I have been using this road I have never seen a single child!

If i dont use this road I have to travel an additional (8 Miles approx) No kidding!!!! And add approx 10 to 15 minutes to my journey.

The road in question links a major A road dual carriegaway 50mph limit. And the M60 motorway. The "no vehicles except for Access" road has just 13 large detached properties set back from the road. (I counted this morning) It is one way traffic for 50% of it which I clearly obey.

If I dont use this road I would have to travel down many more miles of residential roads and past hundreds of properties, countless schools, shops etc etc.

My conscience is very clear on the moral ground and i will therefore continue to house hunt there on a daily basis.

I assure you that there has been some serious road planning flaws to create the above madness.

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saaby93 said:

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In the 4 months I have been using this road I have never seen a single child!
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My conscience is very clear on the moral ground and i will therefore continue to house hunt there on a daily basis.

I assure you that there has been some serious road planning flaws to create the above madness.

why do you need to see a child
Have you tried the council to find out for what reasons were?

Some seem to be suggesting that the reason for this is because children are in danger! Nonsense.

The dibble implied that the road is used by hundreds of people at rush hour so I really wouldnt save any time by using it. I have never seen hundreds using it or more than a handful for that matter. I guess though that the reason for that is the "No vehicles" sign. As said this MAJOR A Road heading South out of manchester doesnt allow access to head onto the M60 without using this road. They (council/highways planning) should have put a junction onto the motorway but havent. Idiots

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Seriously, Id guess the only reason to avoid this road is that it potentially could be carrying the equavelent of (at worst) motorway worth of traffic, or at best a major 4 lane A roads worth. This road is not designed to carry that volume of traffic but either way would the solution not be to go about tackling the cause instead of the effect?

Saying that im sure the sign cost a few hundred quid and solving the problem would cost many thousands. Not that they havent got many thousands from the speeding tickets that are regularly given out on this very road, but hey thats an entirely different topic!

Edited by screem on Tuesday 30th March 15:27

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F i F said:

What I have a problem with though is where a problem is identified, eg motorists pressing on in an inappropriate manner to race the other traffic.

This road is not like that. As previously said it is not that you would be racing traffic. You genuinely would have to travel either many miles parallel to the motorway and join it at the next junction or go the opposite way to the next junction again travelling many miles. They have made it one way to avoid some of the traffic but obviously cant do that at both ends. Here it is to the left. I dont go down this road i come up it, throw a left and then join the M60 in the distance off this three lane A road !:

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Vipers said:

If you have to enter a road with that sign, couldn't you plead you "Accessed" the road to reach the one the other end

Probably but as said earlier, House hunting was "a good Answer", and in my opinion one that is impossible to dispute. If the road is only open to residents then how on earth will anybody ever sell their houses on this street?

Im in property so i know that when a good house hits a newspaper and its gone through the printing deadlines etc, its probably too late.