A281 Poynings- Question on legality of Speed Limit

A281 Poynings- Question on legality of Speed Limit

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SMB

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Friday 28th May 2010
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I'm not sure if anyone else locally has noticed this, and I've not travelled this road for a while so was surprised today to come across a 100 yard stretch of road marked at 30 in an otherwise national speed limit section.

The road is question is from Henfield to Brighton, just north of Poynings by the rushfields garden centre.

When heading south the road becomes national speed limit as you leave woodmancote, no other signs for a mile or so , then suddenly a new post has been put up with a single 30 limit sign ( standard red enforceable circle, but reminder sized) on the left, with a camera sign above ( no sign on the right hand side of road). Both signs look official type but there is only one sign on the left hand side of the road. As you leave the 100 yard section no signs indicate a return to national speed limit, and the next speed sign if you go over the Devils Dyke road is one as you join the A27 junction. The same pattern happens when you head northwards , just one sign, repeater sized, no end of restriction sign until the 40mph at Small dole.


Surely this has to be someone's attempts to impose a limit by buying a sign, sticking it outside their house and is unenforceable?
If it is someones attempt to place their own sign , surely thats illegal as it's causing people to panic and rapidly brake on a 60 MPH road. It's a matter of time before an accident occurs.

If it is official, does this meet the signage rules, imposing a 30 limit for 100 yards on a 60mph road with just 1 small sign? Just looks like creating danger at the moment.

Edited by SMB on Friday 28th May 21:33

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Saturday 29th May 2010
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CharlieTwo said:
Dwight VanDriver said:
One presumes that there is no system of lighting on this stretch making it a restricted road (30mph)

No speed order then someone has been R-sing about - Garden centre to slow down traffic because of their entrance?

dvd
No, no system of streetlighting. It is a rural road which is NSL. Somebody has stuck a single 30mph repeater post with a speed camera sign comounted - one in each direction. It's outside a house on that stretch so I would guess it was them!

If I remember rightly they're about here
Absolutely right, it's just north of the Garden centre, so actually doesn't cover the entrance, it covers the house just north of the garden centre,

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Thursday 3rd June 2010
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update - confirmed as illegal signs, will be removed

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Thursday 3rd June 2010
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alock said:
There's a road near me that doesn't seem right either link

30 signs on brick bollards and then no repeaters or street lights. There's the odd street light near junctions but I'm not sure if they're close enough. Any thoughts?
to me that clearly looks like a residential street, perhaps a private unadopted road, but I'd expect that to be a 30.

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Thursday 3rd June 2010
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alock said:
SMB said:
alock said:
There's a road near me that doesn't seem right either link

30 signs on brick bollards and then no repeaters or street lights. There's the odd street light near junctions but I'm not sure if they're close enough. Any thoughts?
to me that clearly looks like a residential street, perhaps a private unadopted road, but I'd expect that to be a 30.
I drive it at about 30 (sometimes slightly less, other times slightly more) as that seems the right speed, because as you've said, it's a residential street with 30 signs. I'm just questioning the legality because as I understand it, it is actually a 60.
I think your understanding is wrong in this instance, I do know that area and the A30 is 40 as you turn off into that road, it has signs both sides of the road and bar street lighting fulfills all reasons to be a 30, if you follw that road into other roads, they are all 30 and some have repeater signs, there is no end of restriction signs where they join that road to make it anything other than a 30.

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Sunday 6th June 2010
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streaky said:
^^^^^

Without 'end of restriction' or 'change of limit' signs where required, any limit is incorrectly signed.

Streaky
that was my point, if you follw that road onwards , it remains 30, so no end of restiction signs as you turn into that road from the other end, hence still 30