Opinions and advice please - S1 content

Opinions and advice please - S1 content

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larrylamb11

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594 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Gentle folk of the S Series forum, please may I probe your collective wisdom?

We have a 1988 S1....

It has history with us. My father bought it for my (late) mother in the mid-1990s when it was a relatively new car as a low mileage, smart looking example. He was running a 911 at the time and they made a good looking, fun pair.

My mother drove the TVR a bit in the summers and generally found it hot, gruff and unreliable!! We'd take it for the odd blast every now and again and always found it exhilarating, fun and dependable!

Eventually it threw another electrical gremlin on my mother (melted fuse in the fuse box - a problem well understood now, but less so then) and that was the last straw for her..... she declared she would "never drive it again" curse....

My mother had always fancied a Maserati BiTurbo, so that's what she bought instead and automotive harmony returned. We all had a lot of fun in the BiTurbo!

We hung onto the TVR as it was still a fun thing and we had the space for it.... but it really didn't get used a lot... A few high days and jaunts, but many an MoT would come with only a handful of miles covered since the last.

The arrival of the Maserati fostered a smouldering arms race - suddenly my father's 911 wasn't the quickest car in the family.....

A while later my father met some tuning company at a car show somewhere and they were demonstrating their prowess with supercharging.... something my father had prior experience of with Shorrock Supercharged Minis in the 1960s.
A plan was hatched and the TVR duly despatched to their workshop somewhere in Somerset for them to work their magic.

Lots of life stuff got in the way, but the TVR eventually returned.... and it was something of a revelation!! What came back was a shatteringly quick banshee of a TVR that howled it's way towards the horizon whilst overloading your senses .... it was a lot of fun! So quick they'd had to upgrade the rear springs and shocks to prevent it from squatting the back into the ground under acceleration.

It snarled back into it's home and enjoyed high days trips when the mood dictated. This went on a for a while until again life events found it rarely used.....

Fast forward to 2018 and we resolved to refresh the old girl and give her a new lease of life, ready for more adventures. The car underwent a comprehensive 'soft' rebuild - all new coolant system with aluminium radiator, new water pump etc.;brakes overhauled; all new clutch hydraulics; big upgrade to fuse box and wiring; full check over and go through to get everything working again as it should.

The TVR was magnificent once again and jut as brutal....

And that is the stasis. Since recommissioning it's done less than 200 miles. Sure, we've had Covid in that time which curtailed opportunities for use, but the reality is my father is no longer physically fit enough to drive it, sadly. It's such a struggle for him to get in and out he tends to default to his SL for open top fun.

We've been gently discussing it's future for a couple of years now and my father has finally concluded the time has probably come for it to find a new home. Very much the end of an era for us as it's been in the family 25+ years and holds many memories of my late mother and all the events that have come to pass. My brother or I could potentially take it on, but we both have sufficient toys that aren't getting enough use as it is... and we can't deny the TVR is veering towards the obnoxious side of raucous - I'm not sure how long my or my brother's neighbours would be friendly when awoken by a wailing supercharged V6 repeatedly!

Thus I seek the collective wisdom.... I am completely out of touch with the market for TVRs and there's a bewildering array of choices on offering the car for a new owner. I'm also emotionally involved with this car and need a seasoned, impartial voice of collective reason. I'm duty bound to do my best for my father, so what it the collective opinion? How do I go about valuing such a thing? What sort of price range do S1 TVRs occupy? How should I go about offering it to market?

It's also 'modified' with the supercharger - what bearing is that likely to have?

Am I going to look back on this in a few years and kick myself for letting this bit of our family go?

Just writing the above I can already feel this is going to be a wrench.....frown

larrylamb11

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594 posts

252 months

Tuesday 14th March 2023
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Burghley? what is that and when is it?

Unfortunately I'm not on the socials, so Facebook is a not an option for me. Maybe someone who is could direct to here or enquire on my behalf?

I've had a quick look through the file and we've got all the paperwork going right back to new, confirming the original owner and everything since - we've had it since 1995 and my father paid £7200 for it according to the invoice! It had covered about 20k miles when we bought it and it's done just under 30k miles now. The dyno print out after the Supercharger was installed (an Eaton M62) showed power at 255BHP with 258lb/ft of torque - plenty in less than 1000kg of car!

Here's some shots from after it was recommissioned in 2019.








larrylamb11

Original Poster:

594 posts

252 months

Wednesday 15th March 2023
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Useful comments all, thank you beer

The photos are essentially current - it looks exactly like that now and is still MoT'd. It's on the button, with nothing needing doing and is ready to go, but tucked up under it's cover for the winter. It's really a sunny weather machine. It hasn't seen any rain in the last 20 years for sure. The roads really need to be dry and warm to dare prodding the throttle wide open, which is when it's most fun, so consequently it only ever tends to go out when conditions are perfect.

I know the body has definitely never been off the chassis. The chassis has never needed any repairs or been flagged at any MoT's for any concerns. From memory my father repainted it in the same factory white colour in the late '90s as the original coating started flaking off and the bonnet hinge mountings on the chassis were reinforced when it was refurbished it 2018/19. The front half was also repainted at the same time and the chassis inspected and found to be sound and in good condition overall. Undoubtedly all of that could be improved though - whilst it's covered very few miles, it is all 35 years old! It's a good point you've made and I'll make a job of getting it in the air so I can make a detailed inspection and assessment myself.

As tempting as it is to tuck it away, I'm not sure that achieves anything - that's essentially the status it occupies now. The more I think about it, the more I think if my father has reached the point he's comfortable letting the car go, he's made peace with the gamut of emotions provoked by saying goodbye to it. That's inevitably been a tough call. On reflection I have no desire to prolong those emotions by hanging onto it for more selfish motivations.
I might try to use it a bit while we work out the best thing to do with it. Are there any meets in the Thames Valley coming up? Burghley is a bit of a stretch for me - I suspect I'd be deaf, shattered and broke by the time I arrived!

In the meantime I'll do as you suggest and expend some energy in cleaning smile


larrylamb11

Original Poster:

594 posts

252 months

Thursday 8th June 2023
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Well chaps, the time has come frown
The decision has been made and our supercharged S1 is being offered to the market. As it's quite difficult to value we've elected to put it on eBay and let the market decide....

We did as suggested and gave it a thorough inspection underneath - pleased to report the chassis remains in excellent condition. Some surface rust, but a lifetime of being garaged and covering very few miles has prevented the tin worm from taking hold.

It's been freshly MoT'd and happily, it's still fighting fit bounce Hopefully it will find an enthusiastic new owner that can enjoy it and appreciate it, as we have driving