Caffeine and machine new venue...
Discussion
gareth h said:
I’ve been a couple of times, last time had to queue for ages and by the time we were served they had pretty much sold out of all food, they seemed to have become a victim of their own success, haven’t been back, prefer the Classic Car Hub, maybe I’m getting old!
That must have been a while a go.You can easily order from any table, as well as there are now outside food stalls. Cash can also be used in the main building its self, but yes I agree that any venue with card only can be of putting.
They limit numbers at the weekend to keep the numbers just right.
During the week is a very plesent experience to. You never know what's going to turn up. There is always a good mix of cars and bikes, with enthusiasm from owners.
I would suggest anyone who has not been to give it a try, it's a great place. I don't recognise some of the descriptions that I have read on here.
I went to the motorist venue last month for the first time, and although it was a good day, it was not a patch on caffeine and machine imo.
Just my thoughts
. Edit. Never heard of the classic car hub, will look into that thanks
Edited by FezSpider on Tuesday 12th July 19:12
PT1984 said:
I’m not sure that this is going to be great. We used to live in the barn conversions just down from the Knockerdown and my parents still live in Hognaston.
Check my profile. That’s where the mk2 Gti was built.
There are some brilliant roads in the area. But this type of venue just attracts the nobbers. Even worse the nobbers with money and fast flash noisy cars. It will be similar to Sundays in Matlock. And that’s coming from someone who just started the DAS.
There will be all w
kery of driving, the Police presence will increase, the local residents will get fed up and it will ruin it for those who live in the locality.
Still. Hopefully parking will be free on the bike…..
Im in the next village of Hulland ward. Check my profile. That’s where the mk2 Gti was built.
There are some brilliant roads in the area. But this type of venue just attracts the nobbers. Even worse the nobbers with money and fast flash noisy cars. It will be similar to Sundays in Matlock. And that’s coming from someone who just started the DAS.
There will be all w
kery of driving, the Police presence will increase, the local residents will get fed up and it will ruin it for those who live in the locality. Still. Hopefully parking will be free on the bike…..
I think the original C&M will take some beating. So we will have to see. There is a lot of nice machines in this area, both cars and motorbikes. Good luck with your DAS, good luck finding a quite motorcycle
I agree with what you say about police presence increasing.
Edited by FezSpider on Monday 18th July 19:53
Living in this area for most of my life, there is very little for both cars and bikes. Maybe we should be pleased that for people in Derbyshire we will have a caffeine and machine on our doorstep.
For the people who are determined to put a downer on the venue even before it's open, maybe you should stick to the sainsburys car park meets and let the enthusiast try and make this new site work. I truly hope lightning can strike twice and the new venue is as cool as the original venue.
I for one am happy that we have another option in this age of the government in a full war against the car and motorcycle as personal transport.
Phil the owner was telling me he is working along with seven trent water to make this successful.
How about getting behind it and giving it a chance.
For the people who are determined to put a downer on the venue even before it's open, maybe you should stick to the sainsburys car park meets and let the enthusiast try and make this new site work. I truly hope lightning can strike twice and the new venue is as cool as the original venue.
I for one am happy that we have another option in this age of the government in a full war against the car and motorcycle as personal transport.
Phil the owner was telling me he is working along with seven trent water to make this successful.
How about getting behind it and giving it a chance.
Edited by FezSpider on Saturday 23 July 15:00
This picture somes up perfectly what caffeine and machine is about, it does not matter what you drive in with, every one is equal.
Here is a picture of my sons friends land rover who was put at the front in between the supercars
I love seeing the cars from my younger days from old capris to the 205 gti.
Here is a picture of my sons friends land rover who was put at the front in between the supercars
I love seeing the cars from my younger days from old capris to the 205 gti.
As long as every one respects the situation, i think it will be ok..
At the original C&M, they work with the police to reach out to drivers and riders, and it has 100% worked. Regarding the volumes of traffic, as I said I live in Hulland and traffic is not as bad as you make out. Most of the traffic is tourist going to mainly camp sites ect. The other two ways in to the location from Ashbourne to Cromford also isn't to bad either. Talking to people in Hulland, no one has shown any negative responces.
The plus sides are the new jobs and opportunities this will bring.
I hope it works out. It wil be what it is I suppose.
At the original C&M, they work with the police to reach out to drivers and riders, and it has 100% worked. Regarding the volumes of traffic, as I said I live in Hulland and traffic is not as bad as you make out. Most of the traffic is tourist going to mainly camp sites ect. The other two ways in to the location from Ashbourne to Cromford also isn't to bad either. Talking to people in Hulland, no one has shown any negative responces.
The plus sides are the new jobs and opportunities this will bring.
I hope it works out. It wil be what it is I suppose.
rustyuk said:
The chap who lives in Hulland and states the traffic isn't bad should get his head looked at. The traffic is mental.
Hey your welcome to look at my head if your up to it But there again you don't even live in our village do you? You just went to see a house in Carsington.
Edited by FezSpider on Tuesday 2nd August 21:16
james6546 said:
We live on the road that goes from Hulland Ward to Derby (if you do Google maps to the Knockerdown we are on the route). Currently the motorbikes make my life miserable to the point I really want to move house, especially now someone has run over my cat. I'm really looking forward to some fast cars racing around what are arguably some good corners.
Is that from Hulland to Western underwood to Kedleston/Derby way? That is a fast road. What makes the surrounding areas dangerous are the lorrys from the various quarries that always seem to be around every bend, and non locals do not take this intro account. The area certainly has a lot of motorcycle owners as well as some very nice cars. It's always been this way. Its a bum about your cat
30 years ago I lived in a small village of ellastone near jcb. A jaguar e type killed my cat on the way to a classic car show at the Hall
Edited by FezSpider on Tuesday 2nd August 22:04
JTsp33d said:
Love the sound of a C&M being on the doorstep. I shall be attending if it all goes well with it. As good as the original one is, it’s a bit of a trek for a Sunday morning run out, mostly motorway driving too.
Try the A38 way past the belfry. There is no need for motorways mate. Takes about the same time and with far better roads. One hour 25 from Derby. You should try driving to the motorist near Leeds from Derby. Now that's genuinely a two hour drive and most of it on motorways
Great place, but not as good as C&M imo. But not worth the motorway driving. Edited by FezSpider on Wednesday 10th August 21:37
It's been there 4 year anniversary this month at C&M.
I am at caffeine and machine tomorrow night to listen to the two owners Phil and Dan doing a questions/answers talk about all the hurdles, set backs and hoops they had to jump through over the last 4 years of the venture.
No doubt there will be a little insight of what's happening with the Carsington venue.
I am at caffeine and machine tomorrow night to listen to the two owners Phil and Dan doing a questions/answers talk about all the hurdles, set backs and hoops they had to jump through over the last 4 years of the venture.
No doubt there will be a little insight of what's happening with the Carsington venue.
So the night gave a very interesting insight of the ups and downs of the caffeine and machine buissnes model.
Regarding the Carsington site, on November the 3rd there was a public meeting in the area. Living there and asking around the village of Hulland ward there seems to be a positive attitude towards the venue.
However there was a few objections from certain people in surrounding villages.
There was concerns about speeding cars coming and going to the venues. One claimed that cars were known to have gone down the Carsington drag at 150 mph. Which is of course complete BS.
Some of the objections were about any potential rowdiness around the venue.
Both Dan and Phil have invited anyone who objected to be guests at the original C&M Ettington site to acualy see how things are ran there.
Dan and Phil was also saying that it would bring jobs to the area, which is clearly true, after all the original C&M employs 100 people. However one of the opposing side suggested that no one would travel from Derby or Ashbourne to work there, which is completely nonsense being that even Derby University is only 15 minutes away.
At the Ettington site when C&M first opened for the first year, the staff would join the local speed watch camera teams to monitor cars coming and going along the main road. I remember at the time that patrons of C&M did not like the idea of Dan and Phil helping the local residents and police to catch speeding drivers. But there was a method in the madness, the vast majority of speeding cars caught were local residents of the area.
C&M have had a 4 year good relationship with both locals and the police at the Ettington site.
So that's what was spoken about on the night at C&M.
It seems that the objections are based on people thinking the Carsington will be a fast and furious meet in sainsburys car park kind of meet. So it's up to C&M to prove its not by using the Ettington venue as an example.
Oh, and we had another exclusive that they have bought another place further down south.
So let's see what happens. No matter what I will always use the Ettington C&M as I have over the last 4 years regardless
Regarding the Carsington site, on November the 3rd there was a public meeting in the area. Living there and asking around the village of Hulland ward there seems to be a positive attitude towards the venue.
However there was a few objections from certain people in surrounding villages.
There was concerns about speeding cars coming and going to the venues. One claimed that cars were known to have gone down the Carsington drag at 150 mph. Which is of course complete BS.
Some of the objections were about any potential rowdiness around the venue.
Both Dan and Phil have invited anyone who objected to be guests at the original C&M Ettington site to acualy see how things are ran there.
Dan and Phil was also saying that it would bring jobs to the area, which is clearly true, after all the original C&M employs 100 people. However one of the opposing side suggested that no one would travel from Derby or Ashbourne to work there, which is completely nonsense being that even Derby University is only 15 minutes away.
At the Ettington site when C&M first opened for the first year, the staff would join the local speed watch camera teams to monitor cars coming and going along the main road. I remember at the time that patrons of C&M did not like the idea of Dan and Phil helping the local residents and police to catch speeding drivers. But there was a method in the madness, the vast majority of speeding cars caught were local residents of the area.
C&M have had a 4 year good relationship with both locals and the police at the Ettington site.
So that's what was spoken about on the night at C&M.
It seems that the objections are based on people thinking the Carsington will be a fast and furious meet in sainsburys car park kind of meet. So it's up to C&M to prove its not by using the Ettington venue as an example.
Oh, and we had another exclusive that they have bought another place further down south.
So let's see what happens. No matter what I will always use the Ettington C&M as I have over the last 4 years regardless
PT1984 said:
You know what. I’d agree with most of that. You don’t need to worry about patrons drink driving. The local residents will take care of that. But I’m still not agreeing with the speeding past the reservoir. How am I so confident? I was young once. Thankfully a shorter final drive stopped things getting silly.
My opinion has been changed. I will be visiting on the bike for a coffee.
I have gave you nothing to agree with or disagree with, I just reported back.My opinion has been changed. I will be visiting on the bike for a coffee.
As for the speeding past Carsington at a claimed 150 mph, and I will still called bs.
Yes people including locals speed down there every day, and C&M are not even there yet.
There making there decisions in a few weeks regarding this venue.
As I said, it's not the village of Hulland ward were I live that's protesting, it's the few villages that are no were near the venue. They even stated the increase of carbon emissions
I am now of the school of thought were i am thinking, fk it, don't bother opening it. Just let the whole area die a death. We have already lost the nags head pub in Hullandward this year, so all we have left is the black horse.
Karen's will be Karen's I suppose.
Here is a link...
https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/people/cont...
As I said, it's not the village of Hulland ward were I live that's protesting, it's the few villages that are no were near the venue. They even stated the increase of carbon emissions
I am now of the school of thought were i am thinking, fk it, don't bother opening it. Just let the whole area die a death. We have already lost the nags head pub in Hullandward this year, so all we have left is the black horse.
Karen's will be Karen's I suppose.
Here is a link...
https://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/people/cont...
Edited by FezSpider on Saturday 3rd December 19:58
However there is some support for it... https://m.facebook.com/story.php/?story_fbid=pfbid...
I was down caffeine & machine again today for what will be my last time this 2022.
Chatting with Phil and his dad Alan, all I will say is that they had the same objections/barriers while developing the Ettington C&M site, as they have now in Carsington. There is a positive feeling so Its not over till its over.
Fingers crossed
Chatting with Phil and his dad Alan, all I will say is that they had the same objections/barriers while developing the Ettington C&M site, as they have now in Carsington. There is a positive feeling so Its not over till its over.
Fingers crossed
Planning was also originally refused Ettington. There are always Karen's, both male and female.
So fingers crossed for the future. Although I'm quite happy going to the original site a few time a month.
Hey side note, anyone know the hurt Arms in ambergate, this is maybe 25 minutes down the road.
They have car meets and I have seen the way they leave the pub carpark. There on you tube for anyone to see. Were as caffeine and machine are nothing like this. There is not one video on the Internet showing cars tearing away from the site.
So fingers crossed for the future. Although I'm quite happy going to the original site a few time a month.
Hey side note, anyone know the hurt Arms in ambergate, this is maybe 25 minutes down the road.
They have car meets and I have seen the way they leave the pub carpark. There on you tube for anyone to see. Were as caffeine and machine are nothing like this. There is not one video on the Internet showing cars tearing away from the site.
Edited by FezSpider on Thursday 15th December 15:10
As I said regarding caffeine and machine, it's not over till its over.
This was put up today, they have even advertised and are training staff for the new venue....
caffeineandmachine As we welcome in the New Year, and prepare ourselves for a busy 2023, we’re making a few changes to our winter opening hours at The Houndshill. We have changes to make at HQ, and a new site opening later this year, with another not too far behind, so having some extra time to work with our amazing team on the expansion of Caffeine&Machine will really help both us and them prepare as best we can. It will also allow us to remain open and bring you, the #cultofmachine, the awesomeness you’ve come to expect during our busier winter days.
With that in mind, we’ll be closed Mondays and Tuesdays from 3 January to 28 February 2023 inclusive. This means we can still bring you the vibrancy, variety, and all-round vibes you know and love in the Yard from Wednesday to Sunday, including our much-loved #cultofmachine Wednesday evenings and our ever-diverse, ever-fascinating weekends. It
also allows us to work on site maintenance at the Houndshill and training and preparation
for the opening of our second site (more news on that very soon!).
This was put up today, they have even advertised and are training staff for the new venue....
caffeineandmachine As we welcome in the New Year, and prepare ourselves for a busy 2023, we’re making a few changes to our winter opening hours at The Houndshill. We have changes to make at HQ, and a new site opening later this year, with another not too far behind, so having some extra time to work with our amazing team on the expansion of Caffeine&Machine will really help both us and them prepare as best we can. It will also allow us to remain open and bring you, the #cultofmachine, the awesomeness you’ve come to expect during our busier winter days.
With that in mind, we’ll be closed Mondays and Tuesdays from 3 January to 28 February 2023 inclusive. This means we can still bring you the vibrancy, variety, and all-round vibes you know and love in the Yard from Wednesday to Sunday, including our much-loved #cultofmachine Wednesday evenings and our ever-diverse, ever-fascinating weekends. It
also allows us to work on site maintenance at the Houndshill and training and preparation
for the opening of our second site (more news on that very soon!).
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