So the Ginetta Owners Club ?
Discussion
"The Ginetta Owners Club " . So is it led by a guy with his own objective and his lap dog mate" but geeeee*******
I think" but I am a nobody, it could do with a breath of fresh air. And become an owners club of new and old ( Owners ) !!!! and not a promotional mag for the factory !!. he appears to aline him self/club to the factory, but with no regard to the owners of over 80%+ of older cars (Walklett designs). The mag"s and current leader/club views appear to have lost their way and have forgotten the history , loyalty, passion and longevity of the OWNERS!!!!!!
I think" but I am a nobody, it could do with a breath of fresh air. And become an owners club of new and old ( Owners ) !!!! and not a promotional mag for the factory !!. he appears to aline him self/club to the factory, but with no regard to the owners of over 80%+ of older cars (Walklett designs). The mag"s and current leader/club views appear to have lost their way and have forgotten the history , loyalty, passion and longevity of the OWNERS!!!!!!
After leading for four years approx., it seems to have declined to where we are today, the change of attitude you talk off is all too late. Like any political party, they all run their term, once the masses loose faith in their leader it is the beginning of the end, history shows this, it doesn't matter what the leaders do, they will never win back the people/members.
(so -like it or not the future of the GOC depends on the success of the company)
If the company goes under LNT/Ginetta, the owners club goes on. It is independent wether it has a 1000 members or 5 !! the club should promote all of its cars for the benefit of the owners and the mark. The club should support its members even if this goes against the factory ( normally a financial gain ) The Ginetta owners club should stand absolutely independent to build up the brand's name with their historical and new cars for the sole benefit of the owners.
If the company goes under LNT/Ginetta, the owners club goes on. It is independent wether it has a 1000 members or 5 !! the club should promote all of its cars for the benefit of the owners and the mark. The club should support its members even if this goes against the factory ( normally a financial gain ) The Ginetta owners club should stand absolutely independent to build up the brand's name with their historical and new cars for the sole benefit of the owners.
What if ? the club opens the club website with more weekly (or there about's ) social informative stuff so it would be more generally acceptable to Ginetta and non Ginetta owners. Stuff could be put on by area organizers ? or their mate.
An open discussion like here at PistonHeads.
But here is the radical bit for the subscription fee (the magazine), you register like now and download it from the computer this could open up the possibility of small video clip, and with more contributions a much fatter buy monthly computerized mag. I assume the mag is brought about on computer before going to print but instead just press the button "send to all" (subscribers) and look no printing cost for the owners club so subscriptions may come down?
People are going to say " but not everyone has got a computer", but most people nowadays at home, work, friend can download on a buy monthly occurrence, one would think.
So what do you think?
An open discussion like here at PistonHeads.
But here is the radical bit for the subscription fee (the magazine), you register like now and download it from the computer this could open up the possibility of small video clip, and with more contributions a much fatter buy monthly computerized mag. I assume the mag is brought about on computer before going to print but instead just press the button "send to all" (subscribers) and look no printing cost for the owners club so subscriptions may come down?
People are going to say " but not everyone has got a computer", but most people nowadays at home, work, friend can download on a buy monthly occurrence, one would think.
So what do you think?
(missing my point) there is still a magazine even with a front cover, it could even be printed off in a A5 format, to be stapled and folded and slotted next to all your other issues. It could be twice as fat with rubbish or informative stuff but the key thing is you are the one printing it off and there is no postage. Two massive savings for the club.
One would hope that being as most of the information and photograph are sent electronically and can be done at midnight when the wife is in bed (like most of the post on here!) you would get more information than you would really need. Unlike other comments that are made above, the club still exist and runs normally (of course with the exception off the leader and his pet).
oups... am I taping out loud??
One would hope that being as most of the information and photograph are sent electronically and can be done at midnight when the wife is in bed (like most of the post on here!) you would get more information than you would really need. Unlike other comments that are made above, the club still exist and runs normally (of course with the exception off the leader and his pet).
oups... am I taping out loud??
I heard that Ginetta Owners club web site is switched off, so I guess there should be more owners/members looking at this web site. If you have a discussion point or rant and rave why not have a quick go on here before the Ginetta AGM. The plus side to here, it is anonymous even the club officials and organizers can post there inner views without fear off a backlash within the club. So where does the club goes from here, I have posted some of my views and thoughts above or other threads on here recently but don't get much constructive feed back I am hoping that there is more than three people out there at this moment in time.
I understand it is being updated and when it comes back on line i am sure it will be very good.
Secondly, I am not nocking the GOC, if you have read any of my comments, they have all tried to be constructive for the benefit for the club and members. I prefer to be anonymous so it doesn't cloud the point I am making (doesn't matter who makes a comment but what the comment says) I would be extremely happy with many people posting comments that the club in good health, and have many members telling me that I am talking out off my ars.. but we all know this isn't the case I was hoping for constructive comment or criticisms and for people/members to have something to think about before the Ginetta AGM. The case of put up or shut up is not the only two options, there is CHANGE . Some of the older members are reluctant to renew the membership because the Newsmag is full of winging, complaining articles from the chairman and its editor (he sounds like a teacher being dictorial towards to his pupils). There wasn't even any photos in Newsmag 112? 113? my friend was disgusted when he showed me.
All I want to achieve is a constructive points for people to consider and comment upon.
Secondly, I am not nocking the GOC, if you have read any of my comments, they have all tried to be constructive for the benefit for the club and members. I prefer to be anonymous so it doesn't cloud the point I am making (doesn't matter who makes a comment but what the comment says) I would be extremely happy with many people posting comments that the club in good health, and have many members telling me that I am talking out off my ars.. but we all know this isn't the case I was hoping for constructive comment or criticisms and for people/members to have something to think about before the Ginetta AGM. The case of put up or shut up is not the only two options, there is CHANGE . Some of the older members are reluctant to renew the membership because the Newsmag is full of winging, complaining articles from the chairman and its editor (he sounds like a teacher being dictorial towards to his pupils). There wasn't even any photos in Newsmag 112? 113? my friend was disgusted when he showed me.
All I want to achieve is a constructive points for people to consider and comment upon.
Edited by the winner on Friday 5th January 18:17
Glad to hear the GOC website is up and running in his new format. Re-read my first post and you are right, the leaders do have to go!! What an asset you would be to the club with your quick responses, if you only had a constructive comment.
I must be the only one who thinks the owners club is in need of some new blood injected in.
The members must be happy in the direction the club is going so..(ho-hum!) must admit I am a bit disappointed.
I must be the only one who thinks the owners club is in need of some new blood injected in.
The members must be happy in the direction the club is going so..(ho-hum!) must admit I am a bit disappointed.
I don't know whether to laugh or swear when I read the comments on here, I just end up being in dismay.
My one and only objective in my postings which if you actually bother to read them is to ask for constructive comment on any aspect of the owners club or anything relative to Ginetta. I don't have all the answers, I haven't posted all the questions, but trying to get feed back in any constructive format is impossible. I was under the assumption that there maybe people out there who can have a constructive discussion. If i am wrong, I am happy for someone to tell me that I am wrong, but give the reason why I am wrong and to I have a discussion, not you are full of sh... but back it up with no reason why.
The club in general is very low in members and appears to be spiraling downwards, something needs to happen to benefit the existing members, new and old and try to rekindle the interest in past members and still owners of cars. I feel the current editor is too dictatorial, condescending and blinkered to his and the leaders view which doesn't appear to sit happy with all the members .
The fact you appear not to like me expressing my view and trying to quash any alternative thinking is also detrimental to the club and its members. As i said before the club should be for the benefit of the members. Your actions in squashing and being very condescending on my view will be looked upon to be further put downing by their supporters.
Fortunately, you few do not represent the club, freedom for speech is good for all, but you lot seemed to have your own issues. I want to apologize for your actions on your behalf to everybody out there, your views do not represent the views of the majority of the club in your condescending stance, the majority of interested people will see through your comments to be off a small minded nature.
For Mr gee20 no i am not Croft and Mr g32turbo things are never that bad to take that extra step .
I THINK I WASH MY HANDS OF ALL OF THIS.
If you had though through of any of my posting you would have realized that I may have been a member for longer than all of you lot put together and know a vast amount of members, owners and officials but I though it would be nice to talk anonymously to get a constructive independent view.
How disappointed I am.
My one and only objective in my postings which if you actually bother to read them is to ask for constructive comment on any aspect of the owners club or anything relative to Ginetta. I don't have all the answers, I haven't posted all the questions, but trying to get feed back in any constructive format is impossible. I was under the assumption that there maybe people out there who can have a constructive discussion. If i am wrong, I am happy for someone to tell me that I am wrong, but give the reason why I am wrong and to I have a discussion, not you are full of sh... but back it up with no reason why.
The club in general is very low in members and appears to be spiraling downwards, something needs to happen to benefit the existing members, new and old and try to rekindle the interest in past members and still owners of cars. I feel the current editor is too dictatorial, condescending and blinkered to his and the leaders view which doesn't appear to sit happy with all the members .
The fact you appear not to like me expressing my view and trying to quash any alternative thinking is also detrimental to the club and its members. As i said before the club should be for the benefit of the members. Your actions in squashing and being very condescending on my view will be looked upon to be further put downing by their supporters.
Fortunately, you few do not represent the club, freedom for speech is good for all, but you lot seemed to have your own issues. I want to apologize for your actions on your behalf to everybody out there, your views do not represent the views of the majority of the club in your condescending stance, the majority of interested people will see through your comments to be off a small minded nature.
For Mr gee20 no i am not Croft and Mr g32turbo things are never that bad to take that extra step .
I THINK I WASH MY HANDS OF ALL OF THIS.
If you had though through of any of my posting you would have realized that I may have been a member for longer than all of you lot put together and know a vast amount of members, owners and officials but I though it would be nice to talk anonymously to get a constructive independent view.
How disappointed I am.
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