Will there be a premium on the first new Griffs delivered
Discussion
I Was thinking about putting a deposit down,
For the new Griffiths, not sure about how i like the new look, need to see it in the flesh to pass judgment on that, looks a little Jap influence from the pics.
But 90k is bang in the price bracket, that badly needed filling, in the supercar market,
And Godon Murrey, enough said, of how it will drive, (fantastic handling)
So me thinks a strong premium, on the first 50 cars.
Whats your views?
For the new Griffiths, not sure about how i like the new look, need to see it in the flesh to pass judgment on that, looks a little Jap influence from the pics.
But 90k is bang in the price bracket, that badly needed filling, in the supercar market,
And Godon Murrey, enough said, of how it will drive, (fantastic handling)
So me thinks a strong premium, on the first 50 cars.
Whats your views?
I understand they have had loads of delays,
With any project like this, its not easy to get all the pieces ie engine supply's, gearbox ect ect
Manufacturerd and delivery times and costs,
Service framework. List goes on and on,
But they have built the finished car, so i do believe the first ones will roll out, some point early summer.
Doesnt this all add, to the desirability of owning the first ones, when they finaly roll out?
With any project like this, its not easy to get all the pieces ie engine supply's, gearbox ect ect
Manufacturerd and delivery times and costs,
Service framework. List goes on and on,
But they have built the finished car, so i do believe the first ones will roll out, some point early summer.
Doesnt this all add, to the desirability of owning the first ones, when they finaly roll out?
ianwayne said:
The OP's first contribution to any PH thread since February leads me to think there may be a motive here regarding talking the model up. 
He may or may not be not aware of the very long discussions on here. There is no small volume exemption anymore for manufacturers so a production model has to be crash-tested to start with. Type approval acceptance, then there will be the real world emissions checks etc etc etc.
2020 at the earliest is my guess. Although I do still hope it occurs, it could well be a dinosaur by the time it is produced. The new 2019 Carrera S 911 for instance is faster, for £93k.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2019-p...
And supercars are going the way of being hybrids now. Except Ferrari that is...….
In the heyday of the early 1990s, friends of mine bought TVRs because they were faster than Porsche (except the 911 Turbo) and Ferrari for much less money.
Far from it my thinking is as i said, He may or may not be not aware of the very long discussions on here. There is no small volume exemption anymore for manufacturers so a production model has to be crash-tested to start with. Type approval acceptance, then there will be the real world emissions checks etc etc etc.
2020 at the earliest is my guess. Although I do still hope it occurs, it could well be a dinosaur by the time it is produced. The new 2019 Carrera S 911 for instance is faster, for £93k.
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/2019-p...
And supercars are going the way of being hybrids now. Except Ferrari that is...….
In the heyday of the early 1990s, friends of mine bought TVRs because they were faster than Porsche (except the 911 Turbo) and Ferrari for much less money.
Edited by ianwayne on Friday 14th December 15:14
If I can leave a 5k deposit, all being well, early next summer, I can sell my place in the waiting list and double my 5k.
To help pay for the upgrades on my Noble. 😊
Having owned a 5.0 Chimera for 3 years,
And a 3000s i do appreciate the Marque, and would like to see the company producing fun loud affordable british sports car again.
What car enthusiast wouldnt. Can someone please go and kick Edgar in the shins,
Maybe it will work both ways.
TVR4US said:
Penelope Stopit said:
The problem you are facing is that the new Griff is going to be the old Griff by the time it's being built
You can buy my deposit off me, I have waited to long now, don’t think it will ever happen now.I do hope it does though,
Which means you loose the 5k,
I will buy it my offer 2k, its dead money like you suggest.
bullittmcqueen said:
ianwayne said:
There is no small volume exemption anymore for manufacturers so a production model has to be crash-tested to start with. Type approval acceptance, then there will be the real world emissions checks etc etc etc.
They are going for EC SSTA (European Small Series Type Approval) and if nothing has changed over the course of the last few months, there is not much crash-testing required (but still regulated to hell). There are also reduced requirements regarding emissions (fleet emission averages do not apply etc.). Also Cosworth is involved in engine-development (read recent PH-article + video about Cosworths work on getting the 6.5 V12 / 1000bhp for the Valkyre emissions-compliant, so these guys do have experience!)Edited by ianwayne on Friday 14th December 15:14
The benefit of this is, that the car is actually approved in all of the EU by type, that means there will be no hazzle as approval has not to be repeated per car. The downside of the EC SSTA approach is, that they are limited to selling 1000 cars per type per year in all of the EU. To sell more cars, they will have to have more types or go for WVTA (Whole Vehicle Type Approval) which is what all the big car producers are doing.
They have planned, designed and engineered for this from the beginning and the planning was not done on the back of an envelope, but by experienced companies (GM Design, Cosworth), so if the business-side is not killing them, the approval-part should be doable.
https://www.vehicle-certification-agency.gov.uk/ve...
Edit:
This is the position regarding emissiosn from the European Small Volume Car Alliance, which is trying to make the interests, problems and positions of small makers heard: ( members include for example: Alpina, McLaren, Koenigsegg, Pagani, Rimac, Aston Martin )
http://www.esca-online.eu/issues/emissions/
Edited by bullittmcqueen on Saturday 15th December 19:21
Thats why they only build small numbers, it saves millions in crash tests which uses a minimum of 4 cars.
I tbink its actually 500 cars not a thousand build limit.
Intbe cold light of day, all these type of ccars, hand built, low volume high end market price, they build them specifficly for this reason, keeps residues up and demand sufficient, to turn a good profit.
If I was TVR I would build a super sounding great driving fast SUV, only because thats where the pressant market is, with around 40% of the new car sales.
Make money, then you can build low vokume sport cars, sorry SUV???? Thats where the money and market is at pressant
Not what we desire butt what pays the bills.
Amyway i still tbink its wortby of the deposit
Thanks for allc ur replys and views
If I was TVR I would build a super sounding great driving fast SUV, only because thats where the pressant market is, with around 40% of the new car sales.
Make money, then you can build low vokume sport cars, sorry SUV???? Thats where the money and market is at pressant
Not what we desire butt what pays the bills.
Amyway i still tbink its wortby of the deposit
Thanks for allc ur replys and views
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