Do these brakes pipes need doing and what to do with them?

Do these brakes pipes need doing and what to do with them?

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PistonAFC

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48 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Hi,

I took my shed to the dealership for a recall. They said it needs brake pipes replacing due to corrosion and gave me video of the the corrosion. Looking at the video and talking to the tech only the bits near the front tyres seem corroded. I took off the front tyres and took some pics.

My question is do they look like they need doing and if so can I just replace the bits near the tyre (the rest of the pipes have that black plastic on them and have no corrosion)?





PistonAFC

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120 posts

48 months

Sunday 7th June 2020
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Could I do something like this (cut and make a union with a good bit of the brake pipe +/- a new brake hose):-


PistonAFC

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48 months

Monday 8th June 2020
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Went to mechanic and showed him pics, he asked me to bring it in next week but said it'll probably only need what's pictured below for £25 per corner for labour with copper pipe.


Sounds a bit steep for just making a small join on each corner, new brake hoses etc will be extra if needed. I'm up north where costs are a bit less so I thought new pipes top to bottom including labour would cost around £100 with extra for hoses etc, but it's going to cost £100 for 4 small joins by the looks of things frown

PistonAFC

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Monday 8th June 2020
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sunbeam alpine said:
In fairness, you could easily spend up to an hour on each one - depending on how hard it is to get the old pipes disconnected - followed by forming and connecting the pipes.

It's the sort of job I'd rather price on the high side - it's easier to knock a bit off the bill than to ask for more!

Edit: If you're replacing the flexibles as well you might save a bit of time as you don't have to worry about damage when dismantling!

Plus you need to bleed the system afterwards. Is this included in the price maybe?

Edited by sunbeam alpine on Monday 8th June 21:58
The £25 per corner is for the joint with new copper pipe to the old pipe as in the pic and bleeding the system. He said her can't use steel or cupronickel (cunifer) as he needs to bend it and copper is only one he can use confused or is it not proper to mix metals when connecting pipes together?

I was thinking of buying some delphi brake hoses just in case they are needed and return them if not. The local dealers sell Borg and Beck brake hose pipes and I've never heard of them. I try to fit quality stuff so the job doesn't have to be done again.

PistonAFC

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120 posts

48 months

Tuesday 9th June 2020
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sunbeam alpine said:
In fairness, you could easily spend up to an hour on each one - depending on how hard it is to get the old pipes disconnected - followed by forming and connecting the pipes.

It's the sort of job I'd rather price on the high side - it's easier to knock a bit off the bill than to ask for more!

Edit: If you're replacing the flexibles as well you might save a bit of time as you don't have to worry about damage when dismantling!

Plus you need to bleed the system afterwards. Is this included in the price maybe?

Edited by sunbeam alpine on Monday 8th June 21:58
If it takes an hour , isn't it better to just run a new pipes back to front? How much extra time would it take to do full pipes compared to just 4 individual corners.

If brake hoses are needed for each corner then that will push the cost to around £200 which may make the car uneconomical to repair as car is only worth around £1000-1200 and may be I can sell it for > £1000 in its present state and save myself some hassle.




PistonAFC

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Wednesday 10th June 2020
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paintman said:
I was selling Borg & Beck stuff when I worked in a motor factors. In 1976. It was an old name then!
old brand != quality (ergo fiat, chrysler, peugeot, i could go on)