Compressor spring compressor HELP URGENT NEEDED
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Hi i have compressed my coil spring but now i cant uncompress it.
One of the compressors is stuck and threading and when i loosed the bolt it stays compressed against itself. The non threaded side is stuck and wont come unstuck from its current position.
Its the one on the bottom side at the closest.
Ive tried to take the strain off but cant even do that using one situated beside it.
Any help please as worried gonna cause serious damage or injury to myself trying any more to unfree it.
One of the compressors is stuck and threading and when i loosed the bolt it stays compressed against itself. The non threaded side is stuck and wont come unstuck from its current position.
Its the one on the bottom side at the closest.
Ive tried to take the strain off but cant even do that using one situated beside it.
Any help please as worried gonna cause serious damage or injury to myself trying any more to unfree it.
Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 15:44
Thanks for chiming in folks.
Some good tips.
Decisions decisions trying to think what the best one is to try.
If i take it to a garage ive got a feeling theyll tell me to take my ticking time bomb out of their fourcourt asap.
Going near the bloody thing is putting the sh*ts right up me!!
Some good tips.
Decisions decisions trying to think what the best one is to try.
If i take it to a garage ive got a feeling theyll tell me to take my ticking time bomb out of their fourcourt asap.
Going near the bloody thing is putting the sh*ts right up me!!
Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 16:44
How would it go if i lossen the far away compressor and re position to include one more loop to the left where it currently holds.. And to tighten the close upper one a little more..
Would that take more tension off the buggered one and free it up?
Its a brand new spring but still a bit wary the whole spring or compressor might snap if its got too much pressure on it. How does it look to you guys?
Would that take more tension off the buggered one and free it up?
Its a brand new spring but still a bit wary the whole spring or compressor might snap if its got too much pressure on it. How does it look to you guys?
Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 17:41
stevieturbo said:
Of all answers, this is the dumbest so far....just in case you think of trying it.
Dont worry.. it reminded me of seeing the pic with the cable ties holding one down Considering just digging a very very very deep hole and just burying my problem. (Kidding.. But its how im feeling right now)
Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 18:16
Edited by Lgg6now on Tuesday 22 September 18:16
If i buy another set of compressors i could put them in the gap areas.
On the buggered one i can be unscrew the bolt right out of the bottom end of the rod. Its the non threaded clamp thats cutting into the threads on the rod.. The threaded end of that clamp is fine its the non threaded clamp part thats eating into all the threads on the rod.. But i could still unscrew it off at the bottom of the rod.
On the current setup would the 2 working clamp bars hold ok if i was to fully unscrew off the buggered one? Or is that asking for trouble?
If i can fix it without buying another id give it a go.. But if i gotta buy another set of clamps I'll do that if its my only 'safeish' option
If the unscrewing right off isnt a possibility id need to find a mate with an angle gringer to chop through the buggered rod.
On the buggered one i can be unscrew the bolt right out of the bottom end of the rod. Its the non threaded clamp thats cutting into the threads on the rod.. The threaded end of that clamp is fine its the non threaded clamp part thats eating into all the threads on the rod.. But i could still unscrew it off at the bottom of the rod.
On the current setup would the 2 working clamp bars hold ok if i was to fully unscrew off the buggered one? Or is that asking for trouble?
If i can fix it without buying another id give it a go.. But if i gotta buy another set of clamps I'll do that if its my only 'safeish' option
If the unscrewing right off isnt a possibility id need to find a mate with an angle gringer to chop through the buggered rod.
Yup.. Still alive here indeed!
Was waiting for 24 hours to pass before i could post again (those new member posting limits could have been the death of me!!)
I got another set of compressors delivered today.. But not been able to even look at the compressed spring incase my terrified glare and luck makes it instantly give way. Haha.
The photo i posted had 3 compressorss in it as i got 3 in the pack from laser (paid 40 quid) not the cheapest but by no means shop quality.
I considered If i place another clamp beside the buggered one (on the opposite side of it so there 2 good compressors directly side by side with the stuck one and one on oppsosite (the far away one)... and i fully loosen the buggered one so that the open end of the threaded rod comes away from the threaded clamp would that be safe enough to do if all im doing is removing the bar from the buggered one by rotating the bolt anti clockwise if that makes sense?
So when i undo the buggered one rather than uncompressing the spring the two clamps on that
rod move with the same gap between them at all times.. And i could wind them right down and off the open end of the threaded rod. (Or i mean wind the threaded rod up and away from the clamps on that rod so that the threaded one falls away from the rods open end) seems like that would be the same as cutting through it with an angle grinder... And if i had 2 or 3 more good compressors in place taking the tension it shouldnt make much of a difference whether i cut the rod or just unscrew it right off the threaded clamp on the rod.
If that makes sense
I'll try and draw a diagram what i mean if that will help.
Was waiting for 24 hours to pass before i could post again (those new member posting limits could have been the death of me!!)
I got another set of compressors delivered today.. But not been able to even look at the compressed spring incase my terrified glare and luck makes it instantly give way. Haha.
The photo i posted had 3 compressorss in it as i got 3 in the pack from laser (paid 40 quid) not the cheapest but by no means shop quality.
I considered If i place another clamp beside the buggered one (on the opposite side of it so there 2 good compressors directly side by side with the stuck one and one on oppsosite (the far away one)... and i fully loosen the buggered one so that the open end of the threaded rod comes away from the threaded clamp would that be safe enough to do if all im doing is removing the bar from the buggered one by rotating the bolt anti clockwise if that makes sense?
So when i undo the buggered one rather than uncompressing the spring the two clamps on that
rod move with the same gap between them at all times.. And i could wind them right down and off the open end of the threaded rod. (Or i mean wind the threaded rod up and away from the clamps on that rod so that the threaded one falls away from the rods open end) seems like that would be the same as cutting through it with an angle grinder... And if i had 2 or 3 more good compressors in place taking the tension it shouldnt make much of a difference whether i cut the rod or just unscrew it right off the threaded clamp on the rod.
If that makes sense
I'll try and draw a diagram what i mean if that will help.
[quote=Piersman2]
Looks like you need to slacken off the other two clamps a bit to create some space for the jammed clamp to move.
If i slacken the other 2 off... And then slacken the stuck one... It doesnt uncompress the spring at all...
As i unscrew the bolt to loosen, the bolt itself lifts away from the clamp which should be free moving meaning the spring is being held in place by absolutely nothing but tension and no bolt securing the tension.
So if i undo the other 2 a little
Then undo the stuck ones bolt there will appear a space between the bolt and clamp which should be snug against the bolt due to the tension.
Can post a pic or diagram if that helps
Looks like you need to slacken off the other two clamps a bit to create some space for the jammed clamp to move.
If i slacken the other 2 off... And then slacken the stuck one... It doesnt uncompress the spring at all...
As i unscrew the bolt to loosen, the bolt itself lifts away from the clamp which should be free moving meaning the spring is being held in place by absolutely nothing but tension and no bolt securing the tension.
So if i undo the other 2 a little
Then undo the stuck ones bolt there will appear a space between the bolt and clamp which should be snug against the bolt due to the tension.
Can post a pic or diagram if that helps
Please dont laugh at my artistic attempt.
So the buggered one i can still unscrew the bolt.
It just lifts the bolt away as if unscrewing a screw.
The 2 clamps stay similar distance from each other with the tension and move down towards open end of the rod.
Its like the non threaded one is behaving if it was actually threaded.
Trying to explain this so much im getting lost myself now aha
So the buggered one i can still unscrew the bolt.
It just lifts the bolt away as if unscrewing a screw.
The 2 clamps stay similar distance from each other with the tension and move down towards open end of the rod.
Its like the non threaded one is behaving if it was actually threaded.
Trying to explain this so much im getting lost myself now aha
Edited by Lgg6now on Wednesday 23 September 20:45
Edited by Lgg6now on Wednesday 23 September 20:51
paintman said:
As the threaded part is fine you could try lubricant on the unthreaded part followed by slight slackening & an arms length hammer tap on the end to see if it will drive through the unthreaded one.
I begin to wonder if you've managed to tighten them up so they're binding.
This is something i was considering. Just a bit nervous hitting a loaded bomb with a hammer.. Even if i have another 3 or 4 comressors in place. It just doesnt seem good hitting it with a hammer incase the spring just decides to give in.I begin to wonder if you've managed to tighten them up so they're binding.
I already used lubricant oil on both the threaded and unthreaded clamps on the buggered one. That was my first thought but didnt make a difference.
Throwing a hammer at it from a distance is something a bit easier for me to take on. But even still it screams all kinds of 'dont do this' simply at the thought of it.
At no point was anything tightened enough for the spring windings to touch another winding on the spring. What you see is the most its been tightened.
Maybe best call the bom disposal squad in for a controlled de esacaltion.
Edited by Lgg6now on Wednesday 23 September 21:12
Edited by Lgg6now on Wednesday 23 September 21:13
Today my partial progress thought was to move the setup inside my heavy duty dog cage... Ratchet strap the spring down with a few straps and rathets.. Then put a 250mm 1/2 drive extension bar into the loosening bolt and hit it with a hammer to try and move the unthreaded clamp into the position it should be in.. In turn de compressing the spring a little so i can start loosening it the way it should normally loosen
Ive loosened both the other good compressors a bit so the tension is mostly on the stuck one but the tension remains between the two clamps on the stuck one. Its 100% the stuck one holding the tension as it stays the same when the other 2 are loosened..
Yes the spring changes shape as i release the tension on the 2 good ones.. But then when the stuck one is also loosened.. It just stays tensioned even though the unthreaded one has a gap between it and the loosening bolt .. When really the unthreaded one should travel with the loosening bolt not stay stuck in place with nothing actually holding it.
Yes its the "laser 0290" im using.
I also have another cheapo set i got today incase i need them.
Ive loosened both the other good compressors a bit so the tension is mostly on the stuck one but the tension remains between the two clamps on the stuck one. Its 100% the stuck one holding the tension as it stays the same when the other 2 are loosened..
Yes the spring changes shape as i release the tension on the 2 good ones.. But then when the stuck one is also loosened.. It just stays tensioned even though the unthreaded one has a gap between it and the loosening bolt .. When really the unthreaded one should travel with the loosening bolt not stay stuck in place with nothing actually holding it.
Yes its the "laser 0290" im using.
I also have another cheapo set i got today incase i need them.
Edited by Lgg6now on Wednesday 23 September 21:48
Managed to free the rod that was giving problems.
Looks like it started to engrave a thread onto the non threaded clamp. Was filled with metal shavings and looked almost like a heli coil had been inserted inside it.
I ratcheted the spring down... With 2 heavy duty straps and ratchets to the rear strut brace and other mounting points in the boot.
Installed 2 more compressors.
Placed an inch+ thick heavy wooden board ontop of it all wedged in against the rear inner of the boot.
With a 250mm extension bar and 1/2 inch socket driver with a metal oar on it for extra safe distance.
Just undid the dodgy rods bolt until both the clamps on that rod were no longer on the rod.
Went pretty smoothly
Just took about 20 mins of undoing with the DIY safety setup.
Looks like it started to engrave a thread onto the non threaded clamp. Was filled with metal shavings and looked almost like a heli coil had been inserted inside it.
I ratcheted the spring down... With 2 heavy duty straps and ratchets to the rear strut brace and other mounting points in the boot.
Installed 2 more compressors.
Placed an inch+ thick heavy wooden board ontop of it all wedged in against the rear inner of the boot.
With a 250mm extension bar and 1/2 inch socket driver with a metal oar on it for extra safe distance.
Just undid the dodgy rods bolt until both the clamps on that rod were no longer on the rod.
Went pretty smoothly
Just took about 20 mins of undoing with the DIY safety setup.
Edited by Lgg6now on Thursday 24th September 20:16
The non threaded one slides on the rod once again after i cleaned all the shavings out and slid it up and down the rod a few dozen times.
Calamity aborted
Cheers for chiming in with tips
Hope this helps someone in future if theyre in the same predicament.
Calamity aborted
Cheers for chiming in with tips
Hope this helps someone in future if theyre in the same predicament.
Edited by Lgg6now on Thursday 24th September 20:17
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