Tyre Rotation

[MakaveliX]

Recently had a tyre replaced due to it running down low 2.9mm.

I now have
Front Passenger: 6mm
Front Driver: 5mm
Rear Passenger: 7mm ( new tyre )
Rear Driver: 4mm

Would it be worth rotating the Rear Passenger with the Front driver ? So I have 6mm and 7mm at the front, then 4mm and 5mm at the back to reduce the difference in tyre tread on each axle. ? Or would it not make much difference ? I read online that as long as the difference is no more than 3mm then it's fine

[MakaveliX]

Thanks

If it won't make much difference I may as well leave it. I know how to rotate wheels myself but for jobs on my day to day car I like to go to a mechanic who knows their stuff.

[MakaveliX]

It's a Yaris SR MK2, so nothing particularly fast but it handles and drives really well.

I'm doing some research before considering getting the tyres rotated to 6mm and 7mm at the front, and 4mm and 5mm at the back.

As my car is front wheel, having 3mm difference between the back two, is it dangerous at all ? Kwik Fit's website say 3mm difference maximum is ideal.
I understand it can affect handling if on the front due to it pulling to one side etc. But as they're on the back then I'd assume it's ok

Tracking has been done recently

Thanks

Edited by MakaveliX on Saturday 18th June 17:58

[MakaveliX]

Scrump said:

You seem to be over thinking this.

Leaving your tyres as they are will be fine.

Better to put the 4mm and 5mm tyres on one axle and the 6mm and 7mm tyres on the other axle.

Most tyre manufacturers recommend fitting newer tyres in the rear. If you wish to have the tyres with more tread on the front then that will be fine.

(I assume your tyres are all the same type)

Is this to get even wear or for safety and handling ?
Yes they're all the same model and manufacturer.

Come to think about it, I've got plenty of tread all round and don't want mechanics constantly messing with the car so I'll leave it.

Edited by MakaveliX on Monday 20th June 18:25

[MakaveliX]

Thanks for all the useful info guys.
I'll probably run the tyres down a bit first then consider a rotation.

Quick question. This tyre is on the rear passenger non-directional, right ?


If I wanted this tyre on the opposite side of the front axle ( front driver side ) would they need to take the tyre off ?

Edited by MakaveliX on Sunday 26th June 18:57

[MakaveliX]

Smint said:

Looks like a standard tyre to me that can run in either direction and doesn't look sided either (sided tyres can run either dircetion but have and outside and an inside, outside will be labelled if this were the case)

Directional tyres will definately have an arrow embossed on the sidewall pointing the way the tyre is intended to rotate.

Thanks
Yeah no mention of any markings suggesting it's directional.

Asking because if it's a simple job of just swapping the two wheels around rather than having to mess around getting the tyres themselves taken off then I'd consider a rotation.

Looking at all the other tyres, they all seem to look identical in terms of direction of the grooves etc

[MakaveliX]

E-bmw said:

Not sure what tyre that is, what is it & is it the same manufacturer/type as the others?

Landsail. Budget tyres but have been absolutely fine for the 10 months or so of driving. Tread lasts a fair while too.
And yes, all the other tyres are exactly the same.

As it won't require the tyre to be taken off ( just the wheels ) then I'll get a rotation done once they've worn down a bit.

In regard to tread depths, do you guys check the outer groove or the inside ? I use a depth guage. I tend to wait for the outer groove to get to 3mm then replace

Edited by MakaveliX on Monday 27th June 16:18

Edited by MakaveliX on Monday 27th June 16:20

[MakaveliX]

E-bmw said:

TBH if you are happy on Landsail tyres, I would worry too much about rotating them, you won't notice the difference.

Tread depth should be measured in all circumferential grooves, as if the tyre is over inflated & the centre wears more, by your method you may have a tyre with a bald middle, which is illegal & not be changing it.

Cool thanks for the advice
I do check all the grooves regularly, the lowest is 4mm so got plenty left.

In regards to rotation it wouldn't be for handling, just to get the most out of the tyres and reduce the difference in mm on each side of both axles.

[MakaveliX]

Scrump said:

The Peugeot 107 I bought for my daughter to learn to drive came with landsail tyres.
Plenty of tread on them but they are diabolical in the wet.

Been fine for me. Not lost any traction round corners, occasional slight wheel spin when turning out of junctions from a stand still though. Probably normal for a car without traction control.

[MakaveliX]

Smint said:

Replace them with a set of very sensibly priced Uniroyals/Vredesteins or similar, and it'll be a different car entirely.

I mention Vredestein purely because of their long running Quatrac winter rated all season tyres, which have seen service on several family cars over the years, wheelspin virtually unheard of, they also sell normal tyres such as the Sportrac/Ultrac range, again very good products.
Uniroyals whilst not a long wearing tyre have always been known as the rain tyre, and with good reason, usually bargain prices too.

Whilst i can understand you wishing to run the Landsails out, i'd be binning them pronto.

Thanks for the info.

I'll hopefully be selling the car end of the year anyway so not looking to invest any more money in the car. Plenty of tread left and never had a problem even when driving enthusiastically

Uniroyals £400 for a set of 4 on BlackCircles. I'd consider it when I get my new car or on anything faster than a Yaris which I currently have

Edited by MakaveliX on Thursday 30th June 17:57